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Vented Double cab sub Box????

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by carolinataco, Dec 27, 2011.

  1. Dec 27, 2011 at 9:32 PM
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    carolinataco

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    Has anyone tried this box out yet? Is it any good? I thought on Vented or Ported boxes you need more air space than with a sealed box for the sub to work closer to its peak performance? Guess its made by R/T Enterprises. Couldn't find their actual web site...

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    http://www.amazon.com/Dual-Toyota-Tacoma-2005-Labyrinth/dp/B0057Y8KRY


    What they say:

    "It is a known fact that in order to create a 50% increase in your sub bass system you would need to double the power. For example, if you are hitting 135 dB's with an amp that produces 500 watts of RMS power, in order to hit 138 dB's (50% louder) you would need 1000 watts of RMS power. Taking it one step further, to double your dB''s (increase of 6 dB) you would need an additional 2000 watts of RMS power. However, if you are looking to add bass to your car audio system, but don't have the money to buy a new amp, you might want to consider upgrading your speaker box instead. Now you may be asking yourself how a simple subwoofer enclosure is going to achieve the same results as adding massive amounts of power? The short answer is by cutting a port hole in your sealed enclosure. With a sealed sub box you are hearing only half of what your subwoofer is producing. However, when you make access to the back side of your woofer via a port hole, the sound can increase up to double compared to designs where the woofer's back side is sealed off. There is no greater example of this than the "Labyrinth Power Port" that Obcon Sub Bass incorporates into all of their specialty truck boxes. Without adding an ounce of power to your current system the "Labyrinth Power Port" proves to be an easy and effective alternative to upgrading your low end on a limited budget."
     
  2. Dec 28, 2011 at 4:44 PM
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    pinktaco808

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    Please explain to me how that a 50% increase when that only a 3db increase?
     
  3. Dec 29, 2011 at 5:57 AM
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    SPL is a logarithmic measure.
     
  4. Dec 29, 2011 at 6:01 AM
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    Every 3dbs is supposed to be around teice as loud to your ear, they also say as a rule of thumb that using a ported box will net you sround 3 dbs
     
  5. Dec 29, 2011 at 6:51 AM
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    I'd avoid this since it does appear to be a supercrewsound box, or at least similar dimensions, which means .7 cu.ft. of airspace, which I don't think is close to sufficient for any 10" sub in a ported enclosure.
     
  6. Dec 29, 2011 at 7:14 AM
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    MadMtnMikey

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    This ^ plus the response above it.... System engineer on sonar equipment is my background, so I can confirm for anyone questioning.

    The only problem with going to a ported box from sealed, or vice versa, is that you change the SPL vs. frequency response of that enclosure mated with given sub and amp.

    Try to imagine it on a graph, where x axis is frequency and y axis is SPL at given frequency, changing the box is going to change that graph. make sense ?
     
  7. Dec 29, 2011 at 7:35 AM
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    ItalynStylion

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    Facts
    • Every additional 3db needs twice the power or twice the cone area.
    • Ported sub enclosures are said to give 3db increase. I disagree mainly becaue I don't care about peak numbers. A proper tuned box can yield well over 8db of increase at certain frequencies vs a sealed box. (I have graphs that can prove this and I'm more than happy to post them if you care to see them)
    • 10db is percieved to be twice as loud. 3db is likely the smallest increase you would notice.

    Go home and look at your receiver in your home theater setup. They typically read in db and count UP . Set it to a normal level. Now increase 3db (ex: from -20db to -17db) and check out how much louder it's gotten. What you're done is double the power but it's really not twice as loud. Not even close. Go from -20db to -10db and THAT is twice as loud.
     
  8. Dec 29, 2011 at 7:53 AM
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    Steven nailed it

    There are several subs that will work in this airspace, but I do not see tuning frequency, so its hard to tell how well (or poorly) it will work.

    But, in general, I would agree - prefab ported boxes that you do not know enough about, or have the ability to check, are great to avoid.
     
  9. Dec 29, 2011 at 8:31 AM
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    I'm sure you could shoot them an email and ask about the tuning frequency. I didn't see the ports in that picture. Where are they located?
     
  10. Dec 30, 2011 at 5:34 PM
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    Did you look good in the pics man? The ports are in the middle.

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Dec 31, 2011 at 6:07 AM
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    must have nearly no air space left over....
     
  12. Dec 31, 2011 at 6:18 AM
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    I have this same box, whether its made by the same people or not, it works great. I have to JL 10's in there and I have no problem with it. I don't know much about the tuning but it sounds good to me and thats all that matters.
     
  13. Dec 31, 2011 at 8:28 AM
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    I saw the pic, but can you show me on THIS picture where that is? I don't see an exit. I was thinking it has to be up high somewhere because the area is already short on mounting depth so there's no way you would put it behind the subs.

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  14. Dec 31, 2011 at 9:24 AM
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    I like their logic along the lines of "port a box by drilling a hole in the back and VOILA!"
     
  15. Dec 31, 2011 at 9:26 AM
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    nvm i read wrong. ignore
     
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    nevermind i just saw they are using a square vent that wraps around. Didnt see pinktacos diagram.
     
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    3 6.5" subwoofer in ported box behind the rear seat playing up to 137.6 decibels
    Hey guys here is a box that will out perform any tacoma box on the market ! I have videos on YouTube of it playing too https://youtu.be/Qiup-Y9G1j4

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    hows the lows? i seen these on facebook. just got 2 jl tw10s and wish i had low bass lol. but my subs hit the higher notes nice and clean
     
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    3 6.5" subwoofer in ported box behind the rear seat playing up to 137.6 decibels
    They actually crush the lows , check out my YouTube channel I have 1 video showing the decibel level and frequency readings in real time.
     
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    3 6.5" subwoofer in ported box behind the rear seat playing up to 137.6 decibels
    It plays clean bass down to 32hz
     
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