What's your Religion?

Elaborate please????

i did not give any specification on what the vatican is worth, does anyone really knows???

all i know is "The Vatican's treasure of solid gold has been estimated by the United Nations to a amount to several billion dollars. A large bulk of this is stored in gold ingots with the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, while banks in England and Switzerland hold the rest. But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican

but all i was reffering to is the big picture...the vatican alone (one religion) has many times the money to overcome poverty on this planet.

 

Several billion isn't much, but you seem copnvince you have some idea with the vatican is worth.

What is your estimate of the cost to overcome poverty on the planet. Way more than several billion is spent every year on poverty.

Please elaborate.

 

I don't believe you can overcome poverty by throwing any amount of money at it. Evenutally the money gets used up. Solving poverty is a social problem where people must learn how to provide for themselves. The governments of the world need put food production ahead of military build up and build castles for their dictators.

A correct religion helps people provide for themselves and teaches them that God is in charge and not a government or person.

 

It doesn't have to. With either explanation, it's 3 days and 3 nights. You stated the text was inconsistent. With either explanation, it's not.

 

They conflict using the the same information, one rules out the other as false.

 

Again, so what? I'm not saying they both can be true. What I'm saying is it doesn't matter to me which one is right or wrong. It's not a doctrinal issue to determine exactly which day in which year Jesus was crucified on.

If the link I posted is correct, the end result is it was 3 days and 3 nights. If Doc's explanation is correct, it means it was 3 days and 3 nights. Either way, it's 3 days and 3 nights and the supposed conflict is resolved.

 

copvince = convince
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I see I am rubbing off on you worthy, I have high hopes for you too.

 

To me it proves that it takes considerable twisting of the evidence to show that the bible is 100% ACCURATE.

You say so what if there are conflicting interpretations.

That's only 1 out of 100+ inaccuracies that others have found in the bible.

When people of faith force themselves into the position that everything in the bible is 100% accurate then yes the day, time, year all become very important.

 

That would be me rubbing of on you gramer nazi.

 

grammar

Oh, I guess we are both a like then (surprise?). I am turning into the "gramar" police, and your spelling and grammar is starting to look like mine. I just wanted to make sure you were not a hypocrite in this way too, had to call you out.

 

I'm with you...i don't think it would be a easy process...you have to get rid of corrupted leaders first then provide decent education and inject money to boostart the economy....we are talking decades and it's not gonna happen overnight. but it is possible!!and for that religion institutions and goverments would have to change seriously...lets hope

 

who knows on how much it takes to end poverty...it's not gonna happen overnight, it may take 10, 20 50+ years... but all i can say is it's better to focus on that along with cleaning up our planet over making wars to gain oil and power. and to have gold lingots sitting in banks while it could be use for better reasons.

"Several billion isn't much, but you seem copnvince you have some idea with the vatican is worth." if you read my comment carefully you would have noticed that 3 billions is ONLY in gold value.

the vatican is actually the richess organization on this planet combining gold, investments, properties and so on!!

in fact, if you want exact #'s and outraging facts about the vatican, i can give you some;

The Vatican has large investments with the Rothschilds of Britain, France and America, with the Hambros Bank, with the Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States it has large investments with the Morgan Bank, the Chase-Manhattan Bank, the First National Bank of New York, the Bankers Trust Company, and others. The Vatican has billions of shares in the most powerful international corporations such as Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A., etc.

if you want a number, when i was doing a study report for my financial economist BA. i did along with others some extensive work on the vatican itself. in 1996 when i did this, the net value of the vatican was of 750 billions, lets also say that religious entity don't pay much in taxes and this was in 1996.

so again!! why invest money and at the same time say help each others, when the vatican can't even take the lead.

well, i hope this help as far as elaborating!

 

The problem is the Bible doesn't make a claim on what year, which is why some say 31, 33 or 34 AD. It's not a twist of scripture.

Twisting scripture is where you derive an interpretation to make it fit your presupposition, which is not being done by either myself or Doc Brown, usually at the expense of the context of the text. For example, in Luke 12:19, the text reads, “You have plenty of good things laid up for many years. Take life easy; eat, drink and be merry.”’

One could use that verse as an excuse for living it up and partying. But if you look at the context, that's not what the verse is stating.

A more common example is the verse "Judge not lest you be judged." Many use that as a verse to state, "we shouldn't judge anything." But that's not what the verse is about, it's about hypocrisy. Deal with your own faults, then help your brother out.

The major conflict comes with dating when Jesus was actually born. Some claim Jesus was actually born anywhere from 4 to 6 BC. Since a particular year would be important for the link I posted, if He did not in fact die in that year, it would be incorrect since the holy days it presupposed may not in fact fall on the day in a different year.

Many of the conflicts are put across as though they aren't explained. There are other sources which can explain a lot of the conflicts. Gleason Archer's Encyclopedia of Bible Difficulties is a good source.

 

Really interesting series of videos, 3 in all. Jesus is just another version of a sun god that people have been worshipping for thousands and thousands of years. Almost every aspect of Christianity has roots in ancient Egyptian religions.

http://youtu.be/80RyHTIqN2U

 

Here is part 2, interesting stuff.

http://youtu.be/Qudmli4wb7k

 

And 3

http://youtu.be/wuEv8M_Fc6Q

 

these video's make a lot of sense. it all originated from one source long ago...too bad humans distorted it to gain power.

nice find!!

 

Horus & Jesus:
https://hcchristian.wordpress.com/2...se-to-tom-harpur’s-the-pagan-christ-part-one/

https://hcchristian.wordpress.com/2...onse-to-tom-harpur’s-the-pagan-christ-part-2/

https://hcchristian.wordpress.com/2...-to-tom-harpurs-the-pagan-christ-part-3-of-3/

Jesus & Mithra:
http://carm.org/christianity/bible/doesnt-religion-mithra-prove-christianity-false

 

Not very convincing, and even if it could be proven jesus lived it is much like proving that David Koresh actually lived.

Overall some nitpicking of details of one of many other similar beliefs that is the final distillment of the same story.

Good example of deriving an interpretation to make it fit your presupposition that jesus was different than all the rest and the really one for the first time.

 

But some guy posting a youtube video is convincing?