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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Jan 16, 2012 at 9:51 PM
    PLC721

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    max im considering SUA now :(
     
  2. Jan 16, 2012 at 9:57 PM
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    Don't worry...I am too:eek:...being that my goal for my truck isn't to be amazing at one thing, but be the best all around offroader it can be, I think SUA is more than a likely to happen, as for the crawling and trails I do I don't need absolute maximum ground clearance and the extra droop and uptravel from the kit would work out pretty well as any flex I could create :cool:
     
  3. Jan 16, 2012 at 9:59 PM
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    yeah i think you would have to be in some serious poop to actually be hurt from the lose of clearance at that one point on the axle lol
     
  4. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:01 PM
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    theduck911 Max's Canadian Twin

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    Yeah I'm in the same boat as you on that one:cool:
     
  5. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:05 PM
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    look at cliff. (oakleytrd) Sua and LT and still can crawl just fine lol
     
  6. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:09 PM
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    check out paden's truck...;)
     
  7. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:12 PM
    theduck911

    theduck911 Max's Canadian Twin

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    Yeah I've talked to Cliff via on TTORA and Toyota Off-Road, and well I'm already running the same front kit and tire size, mind as well copy the rear suspension too:rolleyes: But seriously he hasn't gotten into any trouble with the SUA, and the trails I usually ride aren't too crazy compared to that but I'm sure I can maneuver different lines if need be :cool:
     
  8. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:14 PM
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    lol ive already bought lots of his stuff, was going to buy his front kit but just couldnt swing it right now lol so might as well keep it up and try to make mine more like his beast!:)
     
  9. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:17 PM
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    Hah, well there you go:cool:

    Yeah, I think a S/C & Camping/Expedition Gear will be before I re-do the rear suspension into a SUA tho
     
  10. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:18 PM
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    oh snap blower!!!:eek:
     
  11. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:19 PM
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    thats his username to, he has the sdhq build 2nd gen


    actually his username is BMOC now or something

    never mind his shocks are on the inside of the frame my bad
     
  12. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:25 PM
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    Eventually...:cool:

    Well on that note, I'm not really too sure what too do, you could run spacers :notsure: but even then it would probably still be pretty tight. It would really have to be a trial and error build as it be hard to tell. The tires (protruding side-lugs) and wheels (Backspacing) would also play a role in it as well:cool:
     
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    thought about it...never looked at a 1st gen axle :eek:
     
  14. Jan 16, 2012 at 10:45 PM
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    Yeah I've seen/read that build before. Whether not trying to stuff in shocks outside the frame rails is really nesscary or worth the extra hassle, and if you're going through all that trouble mind as well swap in a tundra axle.

    If you're quite set on doing it, and really feel you'll loose lots of bed space that you need then you could definitely try and stuff shocks outside the frame but I'm sure it won't be very easy or too practical :cool:
     
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    ...Fuck I hate this BS.
     
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    With those springs in the second pic if he had a soa set up the wheels would be on the ground planted...

    This isn't a good way to explain soa vs sua. Because one is stock springs and one is a 50t pack.

    Sua helps keep the center of gravity low because lt springs has so much of an arch in them. If you went soa with lt springs your ass end would be sky high and c.o.g would be high. Also sua helps control axle wrap. Plus it reduces the angle on your driveshaft u joint when you catch air.
     
  18. Jan 17, 2012 at 5:58 AM
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    Damn this thread blew up....


    Well from a few pages back...

    AP 3" Springs, ATO shackle flip, mini cage with 14" 7100's:

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    Wow....that was many moons ago :D
     
  19. Jan 17, 2012 at 6:05 AM
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    True, but the lift/height of pack in a SOA would be ridiculous.

    It may not be the best way to explain it but I thought it was a simple explaination of why ppl go SUA from SOA on a 6-Lug Taco (which to me meant a new leaf pack and such). Your explaination is alot better in technical respect tho :cool:
     
  20. Jan 17, 2012 at 9:03 AM
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    How about this approach?

    Given the same ride height...
    . the spring over axle has around 4" of compression before hitting the bumpstops
    . the spring under axle has 8"-10" of compression before hitting the bumpstops

    The reason for this is two-fold. The SUA uses a longer leaf pack with much more arch, which allows for more travel. In addition to this, by moving the leaf pack under the axle, the space previously occupied by the leaf pack is now free to be used for compression travel.

    It's possible to get the same travel from a spring over axle configuration but the truck will be lifted to the sky to compensate for the space taken up by the leaf pack.
     

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