1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Why Do Lemons Happen?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by jeremy_283, Jan 19, 2012.

  1. Jan 19, 2012 at 6:39 AM
    #1
    jeremy_283

    jeremy_283 [OP] Super Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2008
    Member:
    #11569
    Messages:
    1,432
    Vehicle:
    08 TRD Offroad Access Cab 4x4 Auto 4.0L
    Hella Rallye 4000 Cornering Lights PIAA 510 Fog Lights All Pro Front Bumper All Pro Rear Bumper All Pro Transfer Case Skid All Pro IFS Skid All Pro Rock Sliders All Pro High Clearance Hitch OME Dakar Leaf Springs OME Rear Shocks OME Front Shocks OME 885 Front Coils Wet Okole Seat Covers WeatherTech Floor Liners Sony Head Unit JL XD600/1 Amp 2 JL Audio 10” Subwoofers Custom Subwoofer Enclosure Kenwood Front Speakers Sony Rear Speakers Sound Deadening Mats LED Interior Lighting Pop N’ Lock Tailgate Lock Viper Alarm System Extra D-Rings In Truck Bed Maglite Seat Mount Disable Seatbelt Chime Rear Differential Breather Relocation Hi-Lift Bed Mount Flexible Front Mud Flaps 110v Inverter Always At 400w ABS Kill Switch Locking Center Console Removed Sway Bar
    Just a case of bad luck?

    [​IMG]

    .... and yes I'm talking about cars
     
  2. Jan 19, 2012 at 6:52 AM
    #2
    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Member:
    #39131
    Messages:
    38,446
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    '19 Ford F-250 6.7 SCrew
    F-250 Land Yacht Mod
    QA/QC tries to make sure every single vehicle is made identicle but it could be an accident in assembly, a bad batch of parts, shipping damage, etc. Basically, shit happens.
     
  3. Jan 19, 2012 at 6:57 AM
    #3
    The Driver

    The Driver Trail Runner/Barefoot Beach Runner/Snow Skier

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2011
    Member:
    #68618
    Messages:
    2,231
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Raph
    Lakewood (Green Mountain), CO.
    Vehicle:
    '02 Extra cab 4X4 TRD SR5 3.4
    Aftermarket tranny cooler, 5100 Series Bilsteins, ToyTec Bilstein front coilovers, SPC UCA's, Alcan leafs, Class 3 Hitch, Tundra Front Brakes,
    I too have wondered about this... How do you get a collection of bad parts in one vehicle...
     
  4. Jan 19, 2012 at 7:08 AM
    #4
    jeremy_283

    jeremy_283 [OP] Super Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2008
    Member:
    #11569
    Messages:
    1,432
    Vehicle:
    08 TRD Offroad Access Cab 4x4 Auto 4.0L
    Hella Rallye 4000 Cornering Lights PIAA 510 Fog Lights All Pro Front Bumper All Pro Rear Bumper All Pro Transfer Case Skid All Pro IFS Skid All Pro Rock Sliders All Pro High Clearance Hitch OME Dakar Leaf Springs OME Rear Shocks OME Front Shocks OME 885 Front Coils Wet Okole Seat Covers WeatherTech Floor Liners Sony Head Unit JL XD600/1 Amp 2 JL Audio 10” Subwoofers Custom Subwoofer Enclosure Kenwood Front Speakers Sony Rear Speakers Sound Deadening Mats LED Interior Lighting Pop N’ Lock Tailgate Lock Viper Alarm System Extra D-Rings In Truck Bed Maglite Seat Mount Disable Seatbelt Chime Rear Differential Breather Relocation Hi-Lift Bed Mount Flexible Front Mud Flaps 110v Inverter Always At 400w ABS Kill Switch Locking Center Console Removed Sway Bar
    Exactly...
     
  5. Jan 19, 2012 at 7:13 AM
    #5
    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Member:
    #39131
    Messages:
    38,446
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    '19 Ford F-250 6.7 SCrew
    F-250 Land Yacht Mod
    It doesn't have to be a collection. A single part can cause other parts to fail over and over again. It doesn't matter how many times you replace the failed part, the part that was made out of tolerance will keep causing it to fail quickly. For example, say the output shaft on an engine is slightly bent where it meets the transmission. It causes the car to puke the tranny 3 times, the dealership keeps replacing the transmission but the problem was an engine part.
     
  6. Jan 19, 2012 at 7:26 AM
    #6
    98tacoma27

    98tacoma27 is going full "SANDWICH" Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Member:
    #11714
    Messages:
    67,724
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ben
    Not Beech Creek
    Vehicle:
    05 Tundra SR5 (+295k AND COUNTING), 2006 F350 King Ranch 6.0L
    Some stuff. Not a lot, just some.
    And when you're making parts by the millions, bad ones will get through to the customer and ultimately the end user.
     
  7. Jan 19, 2012 at 7:29 AM
    #7
    The Driver

    The Driver Trail Runner/Barefoot Beach Runner/Snow Skier

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2011
    Member:
    #68618
    Messages:
    2,231
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Raph
    Lakewood (Green Mountain), CO.
    Vehicle:
    '02 Extra cab 4X4 TRD SR5 3.4
    Aftermarket tranny cooler, 5100 Series Bilsteins, ToyTec Bilstein front coilovers, SPC UCA's, Alcan leafs, Class 3 Hitch, Tundra Front Brakes,

    How about completely unrelated problem parts/components/systems failing in one vehicle. I'm sure we all have heard or owned such a vehicle...

    How do you explain or account for that? Other than on a Yugo, of course!
     
  8. Jan 19, 2012 at 7:30 AM
    #8
    98tacoma27

    98tacoma27 is going full "SANDWICH" Moderator

    Joined:
    Dec 18, 2008
    Member:
    #11714
    Messages:
    67,724
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ben
    Not Beech Creek
    Vehicle:
    05 Tundra SR5 (+295k AND COUNTING), 2006 F350 King Ranch 6.0L
    Some stuff. Not a lot, just some.
    Easy, it was built on a Friday at 4:55 PM
     
  9. Jan 19, 2012 at 7:31 AM
    #9
    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Member:
    #39131
    Messages:
    38,446
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    '19 Ford F-250 6.7 SCrew
    F-250 Land Yacht Mod
    Bad luck, coincidence, who knows? Like Ben said, they're producing parts by the millions, every once in a while there will be anomolies. Also, the lemon laws I'm familiar with are for the same problem occuring multiple times within a certain amount of time, not multiple failures.
     
  10. Jan 19, 2012 at 7:32 AM
    #10
    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2010
    Member:
    #39131
    Messages:
    38,446
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mike
    Massachusetts
    Vehicle:
    '19 Ford F-250 6.7 SCrew
    F-250 Land Yacht Mod
    That's probably more accurate than my response :cool:
     
  11. Jan 19, 2012 at 10:29 AM
    #11
    river rat 69

    river rat 69 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2010
    Member:
    #47249
    Messages:
    16,575
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jim
    Orlando, Fla., Green side of the grass
    Vehicle:
    007, trd, sr5, fmf.
    NO Chrome,3" NFab's steps,TRD skid,Wet okie's.011 grill, k&n,5100's,All this comes right off when the old lady says let's go get a NEW ONE!!!
    End of the model year like the last week of Aug.,,, not a good one to buy... Jim
     

Products Discussed in

To Top