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Rubber roofing as sound deadener?

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by Sprink669, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. Jan 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM
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    I was wondering if anyone has used "peel and stick" rubber roofing material? I have a friend that used the material in his truck and said that is made a big difference. It can be had a Lowe's or Home Depot.
     
  2. Jan 18, 2012 at 1:55 PM
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    I'm assuming you mean like Ice and Water Shield, not actual rubber roofing? If so, rubber roofing is usually pretty heavy and I wouldn't want it hanging over my head.
     
  3. Jan 18, 2012 at 1:56 PM
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    Take a look at THIS LINK. Peel and Seal does work, just not well at all.
     
  4. Jan 18, 2012 at 3:05 PM
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    I was about to link that lol. Yes it works but you get what you pay for and in the summers if you live in a hot climate they say it the smell never goes away and that the adhesive will come apart and drip if you use the asphalt/tar based stuff which will be like never having it on there to begin with.
     
  5. Jan 18, 2012 at 3:13 PM
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    Oooh, good point about the smell. I hadn't thought of that. It gets pretty gooey when it's hot and it definitely has a distinctive smell.
     
  6. Jan 18, 2012 at 3:17 PM
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    Meant to add that this is stuff that I've read up on. It's all 3rd person knowledge but I know that it will smell with the heat for a fact because I left some in my truck after doing a dog house for a friend and it smelled and got on my hands after I picked it up. Not that it's a big deal to me because I love the smell of a fresh paved road just not all the time.
     
  7. Jan 19, 2012 at 9:03 AM
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    I have it in my Tacoma now, at about 25% coverage on the doors and back wall. Put it in before I read up on any of the posted links. I'm not sure if it made a difference as I really don't know if I had any vib issues to begin with. Mine is still stuck, after 1.5 year (2 summers), and I've never had any smells coming out of it. Note that I live on the Gulf Coast and it does get hot, but like I said it is still stuck and it doesn't smell.

    Given what I know now, if I had to do it over again, I would invest in the CLD tiles from SDS.
     
  8. Jan 19, 2012 at 9:10 AM
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    If you buy the right stuff the smell or melting is never an issue. The big box stores have the stuff I'm talking about.

    Would anyone really flash their window sill/jambs with something that would melt or make their house smell.....nope.
     
  9. Jan 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM
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    I was always under the impression that the peel and seal stuff was intended to melt just a little because that actually helped seal the gaps.


    Regardless....you're a retard if you use it.
     
  10. Jan 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM
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    I know a few people who used asphalt based fat mat here in hawaii and never have issues with smell or melting here in 85 degree weather. When i first started researching sound deadners i extensively researched all the cheap peel-n-stick stuff from home depot etc.......I ended up using butyl rubber based rattle trap tripple X or something like that. It's been about 2 years and stuff seems fine.

    It's your chance to take, I say spend extra and get good stuff especially if you plan to keep your truck tell it craps out on you. The thing with sound deadner is do it right the first time because to try to remove any type of stick on deadner is just going to be one of the most ridiculously pain in the ass things you'll ever want to do.
     
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    I disagree 100% and personally think anyone who spends over $100 for sound deaden-er in a "truck" is a ******.
     
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    How many coats? 100% coverage or will 25% do? :p:p
     
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    100% coverage on 25% of the surface area :rolleyes:
     
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    I think we're on totally different pages here. 85 is lovely. This picture was one of the cooler days this summer where I live.
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    Have a look at this test and tell me you still think that crap is still worth using.
    http://www.caraudioclassifieds.org/forum/sound-deadening-fabrication/105520-vibration-test-results-p-s-not-p-s-question.html

    First graph is the crappy stuff. Blue is the graph of vibration with nothing applied. Red is 25% coverage with crappy stuff. Second graph is the same idea but with a REAL sound deadener.
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    is all butyl the same?
     
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    I like the paint on sound deadener. I used both. You don't need it everywhere. Just knock on the panel. Where you get hollow or wobbly sound thats were to goop the stuff thick. The biggest help to reduce noise is to seal the door with 1/8" neoprene foam. I sealed the door with that and the noise was reduced approximately 35% while the dynamat in the rest of the car reduced noise by 10%. but the dynamat lowers the frequency of rattles on bumps.

    You have to be careful though, as this stuff can add weight to the vehicle very quickly.
     
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    A CLD type product, be it SDS tiles, Second Skin, or other, is not designed to stop noise. It will fail if you try to get it to do this.

    Its sole purpose is to reduce the resonant frequency of the panel it is applied to.

    And if you think neoprene did something good, imagine how good it could be with a product that is heavy enough to actually block sound. ;)
     
  19. Jan 21, 2012 at 8:00 AM
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    peel n seal worked great on my doors, and once its aired out for a day or 2 no more smell.

    if you use this stuff, pat yourself on the back for saving all that money.
     
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    I grew out of the "cheaper is better" phase some time ago. I now live in the "better is better" phase.

    But good for you :confused:
     

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