Philips Xtreme Bulbs - Are They Too Bright?

They have 2 other versions....plus & ultra. Maybe those lifespans are longer. For 19.99 a set & the ease of replacement, I will give them a shot.

 

one of my bulbs lasted 9months ...

one bulb Philips xtreme, the other is stock ... lookin for an bulbs again

 

Cheapest set of Philips Xtreme H4s on ebay.......$34.xx

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Philips...H_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6dfa0879&afsrc=1

or there are single bulbs for 20.99

 

Got the bulbs, installed, made the silverstar ultra seem yellowish. Noticeably better light. We'll see how long they last using them 5 mornings a week for 40 minutes on the way to work. Recently pointed the lows down a bit before the swap and am not getting flashed by every 3rd car or so. It was my projector lows pointed microscopically too high. Evidently it must not have been my haneous HIDs in a fog housing throwing light everywhere making people flash me. Did not even have to reaim lows after bulb swap to philips, they were hitting the exact same spot, only with better lighting. No flashy flashy with HID fogs today either.

 

Your fogs, if they are the factory housings, are still heinous. Just because people aren't flashing you doesn't mean they aren't having issues.

The Philips should be excellent bulbs. I'd also recommend the Osram 70/65W units, which are available from Candlepowerinc.com. Silverstars are a waste of money.

The Philips bulbs that are not the Xtreme Power models are good bulbs, but nothing super as I understand it. The Xtreme Powers are probably only bested by the Osrams I mentioned.

 

Just ordered a set off of Amazon 20min ago for 25.74 shipped. And picked up some yellow nokya fog bulbs also. It will officially be my first "mod" lol gotta start some where.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00480FIMI/ref=oh_o00_s00_i01_details

 

My fogs are no more heinous than shittons of oem HIDs, much less all the people driving around with 55w HIDs in their lows and having HID fogs to go with them & the Osrams only best the Philips if they are less than the 20 shipped. So, go 65w halogen low beam bulb to blind people just as much as you think 35w HID fogs do just because it's in a proper housing? Conflicting logic.

 

OEM HIDs are in the proper housings and have a clean cut off. Throwing HID's in your fog light housing does not have a cut off and ends up throwing light upward into oncoming traffic. Honestly, I'd rather have 65w low beam bulbs than HIDs coming at me. They are brighter than stock but they put out light the same way OEM bulbs do so the factory reflector housing will put the light on the road the same way. HID bulbs are not a filament, they produce light down the entire length of the bulb which means you get a much different beam patter. HID's in a housing they weren't meant for is NOTHING like OEM HIDs.

Sorry but I can't stand the logic of, well everyone else them and it pisses me off so I might as well get them too. Turn on all your lights, go out 20 feet and face your truck as if you were going to pass it in the opposite lane. Better yet, have someone else do it who will give you an honest opinion. If they're really not an issue, then you're good but I think you'll figure out really quickly how bright those lights actually are. Obviously you notice how bright it is when other people drop HID's in their fog housings or you wouldn't have made the comment about them so what makes you think it's ok when you do it?

 

Funny, when I DO go stand out in front of the truck & HAVE DONE every time any lighting has been changed for whatever reason, guess what? The fuckin properly pointed halogens are brighter and more glary than the HID fogs are whether it was the dreaded cheapshit aftermarket projector whatever or the oems. You can keep preaching this stuff like no one else has any snap or concern about what others are seeing or are oblivious to what their shit looks like but keep me out of that group. You aren't teaching me anything, I know what cutoffs are and all that shit. I know what my HID fog pattern looks like and where it is pointed from the driver's seat and from oncoming cars view. I don't give a shit about what others are doing. I don't flash people who have brighter lights. I'm not jealous of them or mad. I do what I need to see and be seen without causing crashes or permanent vision loss like you are making it out to be. Yeah, I want to purposely blind someone for fun so maybe they'll go towards the light and we can have a head on collision. That's a retard assumption to be layin on people every time a lighting thread comes around without a poster posting that intention. Yeah, that's how it comes off every time it's posted just like now. I am not going to spend 500 on purist approved fucking HID projectors retro'd into oem housings either but you do what you want with yours. Yeah, I notice other people's shit but am not & wasn't crying or preaching about it either. Commenting about it is just that and the comment was about blind fucks who think they need 55w HIDs in lows AND fogs just to be able to see on freeways in town that are already lit. You can preach to other people about oem HIDs in their proper housings being so much less blinding and annoying but that is your opinion and everyone has their own. Glare or NOT is in the eye of the beholder or NOT. Everyone will not be content no matter what light you choose, just as many would be uncontent if you just drove at night with the ultimate consideration of just using parking lights so no one is blinded. There are plenty of oem HIDs with their flickering cutoffs that are just as bright, annoying or glared out as well as more misaligned halogens in their halogen housings IMO. When you come over the top of hills, your "proper" HIDs will blind people until the cutoff points down just as much as any other lighting will. All this bullshit aside, I mostly use my hideous fucking low pointed 35w HID fogs in a halogen housing for bad weather, dark country roads for animal reasons away from other traffic or just with my totally inconsiderate glaring ass ccfl halo parking lights at dusk before switching to the purist approved halogens in my useless ass low buck halogen projector lenses. It's not like they're on every time the truck is rolling either so all the save the world from my bastard lighting is just wasted sermons.

 

Feel better now?

 

Nah, no different at all & I used no more CAPS than you did so calm shit wasted.

 

I was more referring to the content, not the CAPS. Seemed like you've got quite a bit of pent up aggression toward the HID topic...

 

No, none at all. The concept of all HIDs being in anything other than some certain projectors or housings being some sort of irresponsible crime against humanity when it's just not that cut and dry being posted in every lighting thread just becomes boring and pointless kinda like 50,000 threads about the same thing where people start getting all helpful with the friendly calm unsarcastic search suggestions. Good projectors and HIDs retro'd into oem housing more effective and less blinding to more people overall for the most part......People get it, after 30 threads point has been made is all. Still not the end all for everyone.

 

Step away from the mirror before posting.

 

So if people understand it, why do they continue to think they can bend the laws of physics for something they "want" to do?

Lighting is a lot more complicated than what you "think" you can see. Maybe yours work great, have fun.

But, for the most part, light is really deceiving to the human eye of what we can and can't see. A lot of people misread overbearing foreground lighting for "better light", as an example. I'm not saying that's what your doing, but that's commonly what HID kits in halogen housings provide--very high close range washout, which severely affects distance visibility. It also generally adversely affects the light dispersion, where you get a lot of splotchy non-uniform lighting compared to using the light source a reflector or projector is designed for.

How can a knock-off company from China produce a $30 product that outperforms something that teams of engineers have spent millions on? It doesn't happen very often.

Here's a good read, if you're interested in some more technical details:
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

ETA: Another thing to consider about the "over-bright" halogens: they still are nowhere near the brightness of HID. A D2S bulb puts out about 3200 lumens of light. The Osram bulb is 1700 low beam, 2000 high beam. The fact that the HID bulb is not designed for the housing significantly compounds the issue. For the fog light housings, we're probably comparing a 900 lumen bulb to a 3200 lumen. Even if you replace the fogs with the 9005/9006, I think they are still in the 1100-1300 lumen range.

 

I'm not bending any laws or giving China credit for anything & what I know I can see is just as many cheap non-oem HIDs as "proper" oem winking and flickering cutoffs being equal in number to ignore. To me, the flickering is more of a distracting issue than just a constant brightness, others can think what they want. No amount of scientific data or eloquent words and posts will change that. It's everyone's own experience, tolerance, light sensitivity or personal problem to deal with.

 

Yeah, I can tell because so many grownups use the word derp. Use of the word derp is equilvalent to it's intended definition. Use of it is self defining.

 

I am not going to comment on the content of the rant as I believe everyone has the rite, but for the love of god please work on constructing proper paragraghs.

 

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