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TOYOTA(2001-2004 RUSTY FRAME)WON'T REPLACE ANYMORE!!!

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by rjtlawncare, Feb 10, 2012.

  1. Feb 11, 2012 at 8:37 AM
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    Did you happen to register your truck with toyota? I think it would be a daunting task for toyota to track down second, third, or so on owners, and send them all letters.You can easily go onto toyota's website and register ownership.
     
  2. Feb 11, 2012 at 8:44 AM
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    This doesnt sound right at all to me. My nephew just turned in his 01 rust bucket from the maine winters, thing couldnt even pass inspection. She did this in early jan. No questions were asked, it was a safety hazard to be driving a truck with a rusted body/frame, especially in this state. Dealership through toyota recalled the vehicle, she now has a 2008.
     
  3. Feb 11, 2012 at 8:46 AM
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    you say that they have done nothing for 2nd and 3rd owners of a vehicle...how are they supposed to know who is current possession of a vehicle? they have their initial records when it was first sold at the dealership. what happens after that can not feasibly be tracked on a daily basis by toyota. vehicles are bought and resold many times over. in your case, you should have researched what issues may have been wrong with your vehicle on your own. have you taken it to the dealer for service? if you bought it from a dealer, then yes, you may have a claim...however, if it was a private party transaction, then I see it as your own fault.
     
  4. Feb 11, 2012 at 8:47 AM
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    I hope he/she has a working flux capacitor...
     
  5. Feb 11, 2012 at 8:49 AM
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  6. Feb 11, 2012 at 8:50 AM
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    pics?? talk about excellent customer service on behalf of toyota... 01 rusts out, replace it with a hovertruck!!!
     
  7. Feb 11, 2012 at 8:50 AM
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    Sorry, for the confusion on that lol. Now I seem like one of those uneducated trolls on a forum. :mad:
     
  8. Feb 11, 2012 at 8:55 AM
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    Well just imagine a 2001 toyota truck, with the bottom door pannels cracking and chipping with rust. The brake lines, and lower control arms seized to the point of where you can't even tighten/loosen/adjust anything. The hood was rusting, the gas tank was in pretty bad shape as well (the metal that supports the gas tank).

    Radiator was rusting, as well as the frame that sits under the fender flares. It was bad, very bad infact. I was very suprised at how fast that vehicle rusted, at only 155k miles in 10 years of winter, it should of have stayed in better shape. My nephew told me his dealer was so suprised and digusted with how the truck aged, that they were determined to help him out to get into a safer newer vehicle. He could of been lucky, I am not sure. I am pretty inexperienced with the toyota laws and rules. But this truck looked like a 25 year old rust bucket because of how much salt these plowing companies throw on in Northern Maine.
     
  9. Feb 11, 2012 at 8:58 AM
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    dayyuummm.... did she park it in the ocean?

    i bought my truck in philly when i lived in upstate new york. spent 1 winter up there then it went back down to philly and now MD. almost out of the rust belt.

    down here it seems like they have the salting mentality of PA/NY buta third of the snow lol
     
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    It's all good. I have this to add, I started shopping for a taco back in 11/1/11, after I totaled my trusted and beloved XJ. With that said, sure I did my homework in regards of finding out about the recall, and checking for Taco's only from salt free states, and even then there were a lot of Tacos and 4Runners for sale in FL that have come from the rustbelt. I even did a 180 to a dealer in Leesburg, FL for an Ohio truck.

    I would not buy a rustbelt truck. Shoot, I almost drove one from AZ, until my taco popped up in Colorado Springs!


    But I don't know how much information was available before that, so I won't judge the OP on whether he did his due diligence or not.


    I also agree, that Toyota should not put the time limits that they have so far. They know that it is a problem, and that their subcontractor is at fault. They should do something to improve their reputation, not to make it worst.
     
  11. Feb 11, 2012 at 9:17 AM
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    That's what the letter toyota sent me said. That my rust warranty was extended to 15 years.
     
  12. Feb 11, 2012 at 10:04 AM
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    Its a safety issue people, and for the current owners of these death traps Toyota is not informing you of this SAFETY ISSUE. For the PEOPLE WHO THINK that Toyota can not find out who owns their DEATH TRAPS THAT'S JUST DOWN RIGHT FUNNY. Call the Department of motor vehicle with the vins # of these ACCIDENTS WANTING TO HAPPEN and they will give you the addresses. So all can understand you have to reg. your vehicle to get lic. tags to drive such vehicle(TOYOTA KNOWS THIS). tOYOTA as the manufacturor of these DEATH TRAPS has a ETHICAL OBLIGATION TO GET THESE TACOMA'S FIXED. If you don't know Toyota has been doing this for some but not all, which in itself discriminate. So if there are Tacoma's out there that have NOT GOT INSPECTED BY TOYOTA, then these should be take off the road until Toyota repairs. This is what Toyota has done, is still doing, and NOW WILL NOT REPAIR. We as a new owner(13 months), has been given NO CHANCE TO GET THE PROBLEM FIXED. Toyota didn't make an attempt to contact us on this SAFETY ISSUE.

    Plus the thing that Toyota is saying is that there was a deadline on THEIR Death Traps. And that deadline was 42 days ago. Now; the frame of this truck would have failed the test if it was inspected 6 months ago. These rusted out frames rust from the inside out and that fact can be proven along with others. So you may not know you have a problem until it's to late.
     
  13. Feb 11, 2012 at 10:09 AM
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    I got my frame sprayed 7 days before the cut off. But in my opinion Toyota has been very generous with this problem. They didn't have to give you 150 percent of KBB value and another $1000 towards a new Toyota. I thought they have taken good care of their customers.
     
  14. Feb 11, 2012 at 12:02 PM
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    I understand your frustration, OP. I do. If I was sitting on a bad frame, and felt Toyota had just screwed me, I'd be pissed as hell.

    But you assume that just because Toyota asks the Dept of Motor Vehicles for address information for all 1st gen Tacoma owners that the DMV can even legally provide that info without violating privacy laws. I'm not sure they can.

    Again, I know the 15 year extension applied to 1995-2000 Tacomas. Did they extend that same coverage to 2001-2004s? I don't know. If they did and reneged, you have a case for sure. No argument. But you're going to need that proof.

    Even actual official government mandated recalls have time limits on them .. and you're going to have to nail that down. Without confirmation of date, the law unfortunately is not going to be on your side here.

    And by the way, my understanding is whatever the actual frame warranty period may be, it's from actual date of manufacture. Several guys have got stung on this.
     
  15. Feb 11, 2012 at 1:10 PM
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    I say fix it or stop driving. People really shouldnt need the manufacturer to tell me when their car is undrivable. Besides, its not Toyota's fault you missed out on their voluntary (and amazing) extended warranty offer.
     
  16. Feb 11, 2012 at 2:02 PM
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    Its your truck and your responsibility to make sure its safe to drive. If you dont know anything about vehicle safety, then you are supposed to take it to a certified technician so they can make sure it is safe.
    Toyota went above and beyond to fix the unsafe frames by inspecting them, coating them, replacing them, all for FREE long after warranties had EXPIRED. Then adding a 15 year warranty from your "in service" date to be sure the frame lasted. Most auto makers would do nothing of the sort, especially since the frames were a voluntary recall. It was not forced upon Toyota, they did it to keep happy & safe customers. You cannot expect them to warranty things forever, there has to be a deadline.
    If you bought a USED VEHICLE and decided NOT to check if it was safe (by yourself or by a certified technician) then it is YOUR FAULT.

    Plus, a welding shop with any skill could cut out rust and weld new plates back into the frame.
     
  17. Feb 11, 2012 at 4:52 PM
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    +1 to everyone saying that toyota already fulfilled their part by already warrantying the frames in the past, and that its the buyers responsibility to check over the truck to make sure its safe.

    Every other car/truck make and model in the salt belt will eventually rot away. So far (cmiiw) Toyota is the only one who has ever issued and served a warranty for damage caused by external factors like this. I have seen cars and trucks that are only 5-10 years old completely rotted away due to salt, and those manufactures dont give two shits.
     
  18. Feb 11, 2012 at 6:29 PM
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    Didn't Toyota receive 25 million in a settlement from The Dana Corp for those frames. And if they did then they ammit that these frames are a Safety Issue. This should raise alarm to people that Toyota knew/know they have a dangerous Safety Issue but will not inform the current owners or the public. I will see that THAT will not be the case here. Current owner will find out and they will be contacting Toyota. Lets see what happens:popcorn:




    Toyota Doesn't ask for anything from the DMV, Toyota gives them the vins and if that vin is reg through that state, the person is contacted with this safety issue. This isn't like 5 million trucks where talking about it faction of that. Again Toyota has this info and will not and refuses to ALERT Current Owners. Putting lives in danger.


    Toyota stated in their CSP LETTER that I just found out owners in NY now have until 12/31/12 to get inspected,:goingcrazy::frusty: warranty extension is offfered for a period of 15 yrs. with no mileage limitation from the vehicle's in service date, for Perforations of the vehicle's frame caused by rust.

    Well it hasn't been 15 yrs and they are resfusing to fix the Safety Issue.
    And Toyota knows of many others out their with the same Safety Issue through Toyota website vin lookup. Myself and those others out there are not hiding from this Problem. I can't say the same for Toyota.

    If one of these Death Trap Tacoma's comes in within the 15 yrs then the warranty should be honored!!! Period!!!!! For Safety of All
     
  19. Feb 11, 2012 at 6:41 PM
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    Doesn't Toyota have on their website the vin ranges for this Safety Issue. I may have to get that into the hands of the DMV, BMV, NHTSA, and see what their investagators come up with.
     
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    Is your frame even bad? You are going on and on about how its someone elses fault but you havent even said if your frame is bad. I live on the ocean, in an area where they salt the roads, and my frame was fine. They just sprayed a rust inhibiting spray and done.
    Your frame would have had the 15 year warranty (from in service date) IF you had got it checked. You think Toyota should be manufacturing and storing old style frames until 2019? You are asking way too much and you should look in the mirror for who to blame. Would have been a 2 minute call to any dealer to ask "Are there any recalls on this truck I just bought used?" or typed "Tacoma" in google, or checked a forum like this, or stop at any other shop and spoken with a mechanic. The frame issues were not kept secret by Toyota, it was widely publicized.

    Maybe Toyota should hire people to walk door-to-door asking if you have properly maintained your vehicle. They only need to talk to everyone that has a 1995-2004 Tacoma. Couldnt be that many people.
     

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