Long Travel BS Thread

dang aaron, you got those fast. they're really small... which is awesome

 

So I have an opportunity to pick up a turnkey LS1, 325HP. for much less than the cost of a supercharger. is this such a horrible Idea?!

 

is about 71 lbs heavier than the 4.0 I dont think it'll matter a whole hell of alot suspension wise, just prob need new valving on the kings. Is the anything else suspension wise i should look out for with the extra weight. Def engine mount gussets.

 

You're going to need entirely new engine mounts - it's going to involve a lot of custom fabrication to fit the engine under the hood and mate it to the transmission.

 

it'd would be easier to swap in a Toyota V8 engine

 

I planned on doing a t-56 eventually, which mates pretty well. I believe the camaro this came out of came with a t-56. I understand the fab work but im weighing cost of $5500 supercharger vs a $3500 engine for the same power.

 

Not that easy, you have to factor in a larger cooing system, new driveshaft, mounting and wiring, smog, exaust, your rear axle is gonna hate you.........

All those little things add up quick

 

The S/C is the cheaper option - mark my words; but the LS1 would be BAMF.

ECU, wiring harnesses, custom motor mounts, custom transmission mounts, replacement transmission, and then making everything that runs/feeds/works with that engine compatible will get very expensive, even if you can do everything yourself.

That's a Gremlin project... it will not go smoothly; but if you have the skill, patience, and the money it will turn out as a one-off, bad ass, power house.

 

I paid under 3500 for my supercharger and installed it myself, with coolant I think it was just a hair over 3400

 

If you wanna know somebody who has swapped an LS series engine into a Tacoma, check out Tundra Racing or search around XRU

 

planned on a 9" rear end. yeah i guess the real question is is a V8 worth it in the end.

 

This is a tough decision. I had planned on replacing the entire drive train minus the engine before this. just seems to me a naturally aspirated 425HP is more reliable than a boosted 6cyl to the same.

 

The question is do you you really need that power?

 

Shoot, my suspension can't keep up with my motor yet and all I have is a stock 2RZ.

 

Well personally I would like the power, 260 just doesnt have that umph to me. and with a full cage and 35's i know its going to be even doggier. I know a few people on here have complained about not having enough power after the cage and suspension work.

A few searches yielded with a custom cam a full exhaust they were getting 425 at the crank out of a stock LS1.

Im understanding where you guys are coming from an LS1 would be bad ass a s/c would be easier just to bolt on and get above the 300 range but from what ive read our engine needs alot of internal work to get it near the 400 HP range.

Im still aiming for links, full cage / half back, 9" and T-56. Im aiming the truck for racing. Maybe ill just deal with the power until I get all that crap done then take on the engine swap if I feel like it at that point. Might pick the engine up and sit on it until then.

 

It sound like you made up your mind already

 

In all honesty, it sounds like you're shooting for all the big buck parts with no experience in what you're actually doing, just a basis off what people tell you.

I would suggest building your truck and running your motor that you have and then in the future doing upgrades.

 

I have to agree. With 400+ hp there is no way his front suspension will keep up unless he goes full bulk head/center pivot or beams.

 

From what I understand, unless you've really got some serious coin in the bank (and i'm not saying you don't) then racing a new truck like ours just isn't worth it. Trucks were made for the street, and some mild offroading and then we want to build them to race. To do that, you have to strip everything down to the cage and build it from there. Paint? Forget it...

A wise man once said, to race a truck it's easier to buy a $500 ranger/toyota cage/chassis and build it from there as you're going to tear down any vehicle to the bone in order to really race it.