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Camburg UCA's Hitting Coils on Ext Travel Coilovers??

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Sublime, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. Mar 9, 2012 at 2:16 PM
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    Sublime

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    ^^ Ya, you're right man! I know once those are on I'll be "drooping" them frequently and shits going to break.....thanks!
     
  2. Mar 9, 2012 at 3:13 PM
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    If the shock is strong enough to take the weight of the truck in jounce, it can definitely take the full weight of the wheel and tire in droop.

    Limit strap is necessary only when the shock is longer than what the rest of the suspension can accommodate. With an aftermarket UCA, the Icon coilover will be the droop limiter, so strap is not needed.
     
  3. Mar 9, 2012 at 3:24 PM
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    The thread is about the uniball hitting the shock coil. Therefore the shock is not the limiting factor. So once again it would do ZERO harm and a good idea to add limit straps if you plan on drooping it all the time

    As for "jouncing" you should have a bump stop, the weight of the truck should also not be on the shock unless it has internal bump stops
     
  4. Mar 9, 2012 at 3:29 PM
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    The OP hasn't purchased shocks yet. If there's a great probability of the bearing cup hitting the coil, the solution isn't limit straps, it's to get shorter (i.e. non-extended travel) shocks. There's no point in getting an extended-travel shock, then restrict travel with a strap.

    Before the suspension reaches full jounce, the bumpstops aren't contacted, so all the transient loads are taken up by the shock. The standard spring rate on the Icons is 650 lb/in. So if the shock compresses two inches before the bumpstops are reached, the shock body sees 1300 lb. The 70-90 lb of weight from the wheel, tire and suspension simply isn't a concern.
     
  5. Mar 9, 2012 at 4:23 PM
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    yeah, you're right... limit straps are totally not needed. when the suspension is fully drooped out those 3 bolts in the coil bucket are totally strong enough to support and stop the suspension

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  6. Mar 9, 2012 at 4:24 PM
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    That looks like a break from the shock being forced up too much.....
     
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  7. Mar 9, 2012 at 4:31 PM
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    I thought icons had a bump zone on comp/ext to slow it down? Strapping it to where it wouldn't hit is an option but the ext travel only give 7/8" to be exact! Would that basically be taking that away?
     
  8. Mar 9, 2012 at 4:38 PM
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    he wasn't running a proper bump set up either... IIRC. happened a while ago
     
  9. Mar 9, 2012 at 4:39 PM
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    maybe, maybe not... you'd have to cycle the suspension to find out. either way, losing out on less than an inch of down travel is better than making contact on the coil... and you'll never notice a lose of less than an inch of travel anyways...
     
  10. Mar 9, 2012 at 9:37 PM
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    Like Chris4x4 said, that's a failure in jounce. In droop, those 3 bolts are not even the weak point. The single bolt connecting the shock's spherical bearing to the top plate can support over 2000 lb.
     
  11. Mar 9, 2012 at 10:20 PM
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    Not worried about the shocks really just the uca nicking the coil up! That and wonder how much stress the cv's will have if there's too much down travel!
     
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    I was concerned about this problem.

    But after installing the Camburg 1.25 uni-ball UCAs with my icon ex travel COs I was surprised to see that they did not hit the coils. Maybe I just got lucky and the coils were rotated to the perfect place on both sides.

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    I'm running into this problem with TC UCAs and King Ext travel coil overs with 700# springs. Any ideas?
     
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    Have you tried to rotate the spring?
     

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