22RE vs 2TRFE 4 Banger reliability stats;

everything, they are completely different engines.

only similarities are the displacement and that they're both DOHC.

 

2tr is smoother for sure. Have to rev it up quite a bit to get over hills on the highway, but it does not seem to be stressed out when I do that.

 

I am new here and just bought a 98 2.4L Tacoma SR5 xtra cab, 2wd (non-prerunner).

What model engine does that have ? The 22re?

In regards to the motor that is in my truck, have they been proven to be reliable ?
Thanks,

 

2RZ-FE is what your truck has and they are very reliable engines.

 

the 2rz can last forever if you take care of it. just change the oil and probably timing chain guides eventually. the 2rz and 3rz are simple engines and have tons of space to work around. They just don't put out a lot of hp. There is a pic floating around with a 2.4 courier truck that has 700k on it.

 

Still to early to tell, I only have about 12k on mine right now. It seems like a really solid motor to me and is very reliable, only thing that worries me about it is the light knocking sound it sometimes makes. I think this happens with all of them though. I always check my oil everytime before I make the trip home so it is not being caused by low oil level, it has been doing this since the day I got it too.

 

Mine also makes the light knocking sound when temps are <40°F.

 

You'll rust out the fucking frame before you kill either engine, so it's pretty much moot.

 

a 22r will last forever..just long as you check valves and keep up with oil changes.
2rzs will last forever..long as you check for misfires(common for them)..
2tr..idk..too new of an engine to tell

 

Almost every 22re owner i've met loves their motor, but they have also had head gasket and timing chain guide issues. Which makes me question why they love them soo much...
I have never had one and don't plan on it as they're under powered for most apps and technology has allowed for better more efficient options.

My 2rz feels ballsy for having 31" tires and i love it.

I did have to replace two shrunken valves at 135k and ended up doing a complete head re-build at the same time. That was the result of a friend who towed a bass boat through the hills (on 31" tires and stock gearing) with it while having a cracked exhaust header for several years, so not the motors fault in my opinion.

 

22RE timing chains 150K fairly common the older double roller chains (20R) would out last the engine. My old 97 had 248K on it when I sold it never had so much as the valve cover off of it. 2.7 has a lot more power then the 22RE and as far as I'm concerned I'll vote for the 2RZ.

 

Sorry, It has been a while for me to get back to the computer. I am loving driving my 98 for sure. It does sound like I have a valve noise when it is at idle etc. When I am driving it is quite and sounds normal, just at idle it sounds like a bit of valve chatter etc. How do I identify if the valves need to be adjusted? And also how would I identify that it was "misfiring" etc?
Thanks very much for your feedback.

 

As an owner of both engines, I can say yes the 2TR IS proving itself worth of reputation along side the 22RE. I love both my four bangers. My 22RE has been rebuilt once, and that was at the 385,xxx mile mark. My 2006 has 64,xxx miles on it, and has yet to let me down. While I haven't broke the the 100,000 mile mark on the 06 it is showing no signs of slowing down, and neither is the 88. Once more demand for parts comes for the 2TR they will be the future of sought after engines just like the 22RE

 

I ran a 94 pickup with a 22R-E new to 220k miles and NEVER took off the valve cover or touched the engine aside from spark plugs, wires, cap and coil...

I don't know how much more reliable one can get than that...

Howard

 

Amen to that. it appears they have fixed the few notorious kinks from the older motor. So only time will give them a reputation. When these motors finally gain their reputation for lasting forever we will be taking polls on wether toyotas next generation four banger will be as reliable as the 2tr

 

Just about anything will last a long time if well cared for. Yes Toyota 4-bangers have a long reputation for reliability and durability but also I've seen many Ford Escorts and Chevy Cavaliers with 300k miles+ on them. The highest-mileage motors seem to be driven a ton of miles in a relatively short period of time, meaning they don't sit around and get old racking up only 30 or 40 miles per day. The highest milers are typically driven a hundred or more miles a day and have hundreds of thousands before they turn 10 years old. And they always get regular maintenance

That's a long time between oil changes and air filters! LOL... I kid.
Great to hear about such a trouble-free and user-friendly experience.

 

So true

Well i went against my better judgement and bought a truck last week with a 22re that i couldn't pass up.

Its a 91 with only 150k and i've never heard a louder running motor
I just ordered a whole timing chain kit with a metal guide from engbldr.com and a RV cam. Hopefully after that and a rocker arm adjustment it will quite down and run trouble free for another 150k.

It has decent power though for 31's, aint no 2rz but it's tolerable. Definitely need to re-gear.

 

I was asking the mechanic about getting a Tacoma, with a 4banger. I would love a truck with a 22r, but my dad won't let me get anything that old (but there is one exception if they decide to sell.) He told me that the 3.4 was probably the most reliable engine Toyota ever made, which I knew has to be wrong. Wouldn't the 22r(e) be more reliable? I don't know much, and he's a Toyota employee so I didn't question him haha.