1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

3 vs. 6

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Justin, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. Apr 18, 2012 at 8:12 PM
    #1
    Justin

    Justin [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Member:
    #49854
    Messages:
    1,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Colorado Springs
    Vehicle:
    2018 4Runner TRD-OR
    285/75/17 on SCS 6's. ADS front & rear w/ adjusters. Relentless front bumper & roof rack. BAMF sliders
    So I am wondering what is really the difference on a 3in. vs. 6in. for off roading. I know that with a 6in. you can run 35s, which would give you more ground clearance right? But I have been hearing that 3in. lifts are better for off roading. Why is that? Also do you have to trim if you run 35s on a 6in. lift?
     
  2. Apr 18, 2012 at 8:18 PM
    #2
    Justin

    Justin [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Member:
    #49854
    Messages:
    1,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Colorado Springs
    Vehicle:
    2018 4Runner TRD-OR
    285/75/17 on SCS 6's. ADS front & rear w/ adjusters. Relentless front bumper & roof rack. BAMF sliders
    Okay thanks. Yeah I had a feeling about the top heavy part too. Will with a lift, what is special about Total Chaos UCA's? The Icon lift I looked at has UCA's, but why does Total Chaos seem more popular?
     
  3. Apr 18, 2012 at 8:20 PM
    #3
    BeeRadd

    BeeRadd Bought not built.

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2011
    Member:
    #63401
    Messages:
    1,222
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brad
    Fountain Valley, CA
    Vehicle:
    2010 DCSB LT 4x4
    LOADING...
    I think because Total Chaos is a slight bit cheaper than most uca's but built very well. The reviews go around.
     
  4. Apr 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM
    #4
    08pretaco

    08pretaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2008
    Member:
    #9502
    Messages:
    9,321
    Gender:
    Male
    az
    Vehicle:
    2014 Tundra 4x4 CM 5.7L SR5
    @ADSracingshocks - F 3 point ohh / R 2.5 - w/clickers @camburgracing - uniball UCA @rigidindustries - 40" amber/white split, Dually XL, D2 @coopertires - 35/12.5/17 STT MAXX @bayareametalfab - low pro bed rack @toyotausa - 17" rock warrior @sdhqoffroad - rock sliders, a-pillar @hondogarage / @apple / @gaiagps / @dualgps- navigation @wheelersoffroadinc - superbumps
    idk if you 4x4 but if you are NOT then there is a 4" lift option, Camburg spindles! You'll love em!
     
  5. Apr 18, 2012 at 8:43 PM
    #5
    Justin

    Justin [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Member:
    #49854
    Messages:
    1,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Colorado Springs
    Vehicle:
    2018 4Runner TRD-OR
    285/75/17 on SCS 6's. ADS front & rear w/ adjusters. Relentless front bumper & roof rack. BAMF sliders
    yeah i have a 4x4..... well would a 3in. icon with 33's give me a good amount of clearance and articulation?
     
  6. Apr 18, 2012 at 11:37 PM
    #6
    valon5150

    valon5150 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2012
    Member:
    #73492
    Messages:
    416
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Steven
    redding
    Vehicle:
    01 taco turd
    all pro lift, 33s, home made sliders, bumpers, skids
    3 inch front and 33's is the ideal IFS taco lift for off road. or I should say 3 inch lift is ideal. You can always throw some 35's on with a wee bit of cutting and welding.

    3 inch is better cause you have the same amount of travel in the front as a 6 inch but your center of gravity is lower which is much better for offroading
     
  7. Apr 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM
    #7
    wrmathis

    wrmathis Dark Lord of the Sith

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2008
    Member:
    #9126
    Messages:
    9,327
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ryan
    Bonaire, GA
    Vehicle:
    2006 Tacoma TRD OR 4x4
    parts and stuff
    i got my ICON Tubular UCAs cheaper than the total chaos. reason TC is more popular is becuase they have been out way longer than the ICON Tubular UCAs
     
  8. Apr 19, 2012 at 9:17 AM
    #8
    tacoman15

    tacoman15 Boobies

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2011
    Member:
    #62001
    Messages:
    3,567
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Northeast Georgia
    Vehicle:
    2015 Tacoma TRD OR & 1985 SR5 4Runner
    You can still have 4 inches of lift if you have 4x4. 3 inch suspension and a 1 inch body lift :D
     
  9. Apr 19, 2012 at 9:20 AM
    #9
    krimson

    krimson Nothin

    Joined:
    May 17, 2008
    Member:
    #6714
    Messages:
    3,401
    Vehicle:
    TRD Off Road
    OME 3" lift with 885 coils. OME Shocks with TSB 1.5 AAL. 285/75/16 KM2s. XD Hoss 16" wheels. DDM Tuning 6000K HIDs, H10 6000K Fogs. BHLM. Debaged. 20% tint on front windows.
    6" lifts ride like shit, I know the ones that I've been in were... 3" lifts don't require you to cut the cross member off... 3" lifts are better Off Road vs 6" lifts.
     
  10. Apr 19, 2012 at 9:41 AM
    #10
    93civEJ1

    93civEJ1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Member:
    #8411
    Messages:
    584
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    09 DC TRD OR
    Procomp 6" Stage 1, Bilstein 5100's in front, flowmaster 40 series
    i disagree on that one. I know I had 3" lift before, and with the 6" it rides better than it did with the 3. I think it just depends on what parts you are going to use.
     
  11. Apr 22, 2012 at 8:32 PM
    #11
    Justin

    Justin [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Member:
    #49854
    Messages:
    1,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Colorado Springs
    Vehicle:
    2018 4Runner TRD-OR
    285/75/17 on SCS 6's. ADS front & rear w/ adjusters. Relentless front bumper & roof rack. BAMF sliders
    What kind of 3in. did you have?
     
  12. Apr 22, 2012 at 8:36 PM
    #12
    Justin

    Justin [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Member:
    #49854
    Messages:
    1,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Colorado Springs
    Vehicle:
    2018 4Runner TRD-OR
    285/75/17 on SCS 6's. ADS front & rear w/ adjusters. Relentless front bumper & roof rack. BAMF sliders
    But they're both made with the same type of material?
     
  13. Apr 22, 2012 at 8:55 PM
    #13
    tacomalex

    tacomalex Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2011
    Member:
    #58120
    Messages:
    718
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Alex
    WV
    Vehicle:
    '11 SR5 2.7l 4x4
    plasti dip engine
    If you like monster and flat bill hats a 6 inch lift and 20 inch rims will do you well. If you're just a normal guy looking for off road capability and good road manners a 3 inch lift is the way to go.

    Some ext. travel coilovers and uniball UCA's up front will give you a good ride and decent off road capability (it's only an IFS suspension) and in the back a good flexy leaf pack and ext. travel shocks and longer brake lines is all you need.

    I went with an OME lift with Light Racing UCA's and an AAL in the rear. Rides great, better than stock off road, and no monster or flat bill hats have been found in the truck. Oh and all together I only spent about 1100 bucks. (group buys on this site really helped out)

    As for fitting tires trimming and a cab mount chop may be required depending on tire size, wheel backspacing ect. Just read around and you'll keep learning.
     
  14. Apr 22, 2012 at 9:16 PM
    #14
    Justin

    Justin [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Member:
    #49854
    Messages:
    1,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Colorado Springs
    Vehicle:
    2018 4Runner TRD-OR
    285/75/17 on SCS 6's. ADS front & rear w/ adjusters. Relentless front bumper & roof rack. BAMF sliders
    Thanks Tacomalex, that helped a lot. :)

    With coil overs, if you got a set in the front, for a 3in. lift, and cranked them up, do they ride worse? I've heard that if you max out your C/O's its not a pleasant ride, is it true? If so where is a good meeting ground to put your C/O's?
     
  15. Apr 23, 2012 at 9:35 PM
    #15
    buggin

    buggin Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2012
    Member:
    #77517
    Messages:
    21
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Peter
    909
    Vehicle:
    09 4x4 Trail Camper DCLB
    King CO, Fox Rear w/ All Pro Expo, 285 BFG AT KO
    I have the exact same question, this thread has been helpful. Just looking for a little more clearance and a nice off road ride.
     
  16. Apr 23, 2012 at 9:49 PM
    #16
    brian

    brian Another Traitor

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2009
    Member:
    #16011
    Messages:
    7,551
    Gender:
    Male
    Elizabeth City, NC
    Vehicle:
    2017 F-250 Powerstroke
    You crank up your coilovers and it will be stiff. I run my coilovers around 2.5" with 600 pound springs and its a tad stiff, but realllllly rides nice offroad. On the flip side, I have a friend who bought 700 pound springs, and is cranked for 3" and there is absolutely no give in his front suspension... he bought it in anticipation of getting a bumper, since they are quite heavy... just hasn't gotten that far yet.

    Honestly, if you're gonna go without a bumper I would almost suggest a 550 pound spring or maybe even less to maintain a nice ride and full travel. Get a really nice shock and you'll be set for offroad. My quarrel with my setup is with the preload, I don't have very much up travel when I go over obstactles. I'm not complaining too much yet since I haven't done a cab mount chop, I don't really want to stuff them and rub em.

    Its a personal preference to me, if I didn't have the idea of getting a bumper in the future, then I might have gone with lighter coils.


    My setup. Foxes.

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Apr 23, 2012 at 11:47 PM
    #17
    chad68

    chad68 Master Jedi Member I am...

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2007
    Member:
    #3263
    Messages:
    1,071
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chad
    In a (Toyota) van down by the river! Sonoma Cownty
    Vehicle:
    2009 4x4 reg cab. Modded with more to come
    Polished 16x8 Pro Comp 1069's 4" BS Nitto Mud Grapplers 305/70/16 Magnaflow & glasspack muffler Stainless tip K&N 63 series Aircharger Vent visors Autometer volt and dig. temp. gauge custom mounted Factory chrome rear bumper (not black factory, one) TRD pedal covers TRD skid plate Hurst T handle shift knob Rear Tint Clear bra on the sides Chrome extinguisher Icon non resi coilovers, ICON RR shocks, black seat covers. And some other crap
    Even though I have 3" via ICON's and not a 6" I would agree with you.

    With 3" 'depending on what arms you use', you're never going to get 100% back to stock alignment settings and if you're turning up coilovers, you get a stiffer ride than stock.

    With 6" you maintain 100% factory alignment specs, using stock arms as well as stock ride characteristics, assuming you're using the spacer junk. If you're running aftermarket coilovers with the 6", then the ride should be even better than stock, assuming you don't crank them for more lift (over 6").

    With all the said I hate the 3" and 6" lifts LOL.
     
  18. Apr 24, 2012 at 9:45 AM
    #18
    Justin

    Justin [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Member:
    #49854
    Messages:
    1,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Colorado Springs
    Vehicle:
    2018 4Runner TRD-OR
    285/75/17 on SCS 6's. ADS front & rear w/ adjusters. Relentless front bumper & roof rack. BAMF sliders
    So is there a good meeting ground then for the coils? like 2-2.5in.? I would like to still fit 33's without it rubbing, and I plan on getting an All Pro front bumper and winch.
     
  19. Apr 24, 2012 at 10:21 AM
    #19
    tacoman15

    tacoman15 Boobies

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2011
    Member:
    #62001
    Messages:
    3,567
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Chris
    Northeast Georgia
    Vehicle:
    2015 Tacoma TRD OR & 1985 SR5 4Runner
    You are going to rub with 33's on a 3 inch lift.
     
  20. Apr 24, 2012 at 11:51 AM
    #20
    Justin

    Justin [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Member:
    #49854
    Messages:
    1,381
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Colorado Springs
    Vehicle:
    2018 4Runner TRD-OR
    285/75/17 on SCS 6's. ADS front & rear w/ adjusters. Relentless front bumper & roof rack. BAMF sliders
    Hmmm okay. Yeah I don't want to do a cab chop or trimming or anything. Well whats the biggest you can go without rubbing with a 3in. Lift? And would you set the coils to 2-2.5 or where is good?
     

Products Discussed in

To Top