What's up with all the hate for All-Pro?

Kind of interesting your bro Larry just did a write up ttora and was questioned regarding his choice of material for his skids. Larry said

" I have a hard time believing that aluminum would hold up to what I do"

Again with the 1/4 plate steel is all that will hold up to my extreme rock crawling theory.

Here is the response:

I just thought it interesting given the direction of this thread. As a side note, rockcrawlers in the jeep world, doing the most extreme trails
are for the most part running or starting to run aluminum for skids, sliders, bumpers etc..

Just food for thought, its your truck and you use what works for you, just saying might be worth broadening your horizons a bit and investigating other materials. Again, light weight is king

 

I don't have armor...yet

 

tinsel strength

 

you wanna tell my friends that race in the desert to run aluminum?

i guess they should since the jeep guys are doing it

 

maybe these guys shoulda run aluminum roll cages:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVoEhCSP4mk

 

Yes I think the idea of aluminum plate with a steel sub frame really applies to making aluminum cages.

Thats like saying we should start building cages out of schedule 40 steel pipe, I mean hell it's steel right?

 

I don't tell anyone to run anything its your vehicle do what you like I'm just offering another opinion. Dont get to sucked in to the "This is what my bro does it must be right" line of thinking, go do a little reading and research on your own you might be surprised.

 

Lots of working boats up here are made from aluminum , strong as hell .

 

I see a lot of anecdotal references and very little substance to most of the claims I've heard.

For the record, I'm no fanboy and I dont have any Allpro stuff on my truck yet but let me point out something very important to the critics here -

Allpro is a major pillar in this little segment and goes above and beyond to support events, trail and land use issues and alot of other things many take for granted. I've seen Toyota fabbers and vendors come and go. Some missed and some not. But bashing a stand up business like Allpro or any company that supports US, the ENTHUSIASTS, with specious comments and hyperbole is just lame.

Without solid vendors like Allpro our little "Tacoma World" would be a lot less cool.

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Aircraft as well.... hmmmmm Strange.

 

I have AP rock slider and love them. Had no problems with customer service, they were great and got my product right on time. That my 2 cents

 

Try punching the side of an aluminum boat make with 1/4" plate

 

Aluminum armor is out there. Asfir, Budbuilt to name a couple off the top of my head. Go price them... aluminum skids are stupid expensive IMO for the weight savings.

If there's anywhere I'd want to take the hit on weight for steel armor, it's under the belly of the truck.

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he said most extreme of trails, so i challenged that

I never said "bro", bro

 

Ok I will send a letter to NASA and General Dynamics and tell them to go with plate steel. Typing letter now................

 

i would if they are nerfing their shuttles against other shuttles going thru the gnarliest trails bro

 

All I can end with is I know there are many engineers and experts here, obviously, but just take a few minutes, even use google as a starting point if you like and learn a small amount about metal and why and how its selected and for what purpose. Nowhere did I claim Aluminum is superior for every application, in fact I only spoke of one specific application. However roll cages are in fact fabbed out of aluminum if you look around, so are chassis and a many other things. Design, application operating environment etc.. a host of factors come in to play when selecting metal. Aluminum is certainly not the correct choice for everything, I'm just saying it can be a choice and it can be a better choice than steel.

 

Dont forget that Aluminum has it's own inherent issues especially when mated to steel...

 

From reading this I would say there communication sucks.
I would also conclude that the steel they use is cheap and thin.