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Flat Black Vs Matte Black?

Discussion in 'Detailing' started by Phantom_X-SP, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. Apr 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM
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    Phantom_X-SP

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    This is just a general question and I wasn't too sure where to post it.

    What is the difference between "Flat Black" and "Matte Black" if any? I did some general surfing looking for an answer but couldn't find anything definite.

    btw...I'm not painting my truck either colors (though it would probably look cool)...so no worries :D
     
  2. Apr 2, 2009 at 2:03 PM
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    I use them interchangeably...
     
  3. Apr 2, 2009 at 3:34 PM
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    Yea...I hear a lot of people using both...I always wondered if there was a difference
     
  4. Apr 2, 2009 at 3:37 PM
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    they are pretty similar but i believe the matte has a slightly glossier finnish... almost too slight to tell...

    flat ---> matte ---> satin ---> semi-gloss ---> gloss
     
  5. Apr 2, 2009 at 3:38 PM
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    there are also variations by brand
     
  6. Apr 2, 2009 at 4:45 PM
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    That makes sense...though I read somewhere that matte was the "dullest", then flat, and so forth like you have listed. Was hoping to get something concrete to rest any uncertainties.
     
  7. Apr 4, 2009 at 7:30 PM
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    My wife the artist tells me that flat has 0 luster and the matte finishes have a small bit of luster...but I find paint sites on the internet calling "flat" and "matte" the same thing. They say matte or flat...and then flat enamel, then eggshell, satin, semi-gloss, and gloss

    There are different types of paints too...enamels, latex, oils, etc...and I think that matters too.
     
  9. Apr 4, 2009 at 7:45 PM
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    It does look good on a Tacoma, ecspecially a X-Runner.[​IMG]
     
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    Cool...that's some good info. Tell your wife I said thanks.

    I agree that the two words are alternately used loosely...but so are many words in the English language. :D
     
  11. Apr 4, 2009 at 7:46 PM
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    Thats hott :cool:
     
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    that xrunner looks bad ass
     
  13. Apr 4, 2009 at 7:49 PM
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    +1- Sex on wheels comes to mind...:cool:
     
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    That X-runner looks sickk!!:thumbsup:
     
  15. Apr 26, 2009 at 11:04 PM
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    sooo which kind of paint should i use for badgeing flat or matte???
    suggestions???
     
  16. Apr 27, 2009 at 4:43 AM
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    Whatever matches with your rims and other color mods (grill, flares, etc)

    I painted my rims and billet satin black- Didn't re-badge so I can't tell you about that so if I did they'd be satin black too.
     
  17. Apr 27, 2009 at 6:21 AM
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    ok, thanks man
     
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    So I've been viewing several YouTube videos on this and reading articles from various searches for Matte black, flat black, and satin black applications on vehicles. I am really considering going with the 3M matte black vinyl wrap on my DC PreRunner.

    Here's some of what I've been viewing:
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VJ-hTEUz2o&feature=related

    Part 2 -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-o81hixsOw&feature=related

    Final -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZenXFskFLQY&feature=related

    Vinyl application example -
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MQC3QSPh2U&feature=related

    My opinion is that a quality finished product is pure sex... This is a hot mod! I'm going to get quotes from some of the local sign shops this coming week.
     
  19. Aug 22, 2010 at 5:43 PM
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    Sickness +1 :D
     
  20. Aug 22, 2010 at 6:20 PM
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    Would you post up some of your quotes? I'm just wondering how much a vehicle wrap costs.
     

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