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3'inch lift, front

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by tacoma.nut, May 30, 2012.

  1. May 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM
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    :eek:Pugga got to it before i replied
     
  2. May 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM
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    Pretty much spindles is an idiot proof way to go, keeping close to factory ride and on a decent budget.:D
     
  3. May 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM
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    It's the cheapest/easiest way to gain over 3" of lift on the front of a prerunner and because you retain the factory suspension and aren't preloading the coils, you maintain a factory ride up front. The rear would need an AAL of a leaf pack which would stiffen it up a bit but not bad.
     
  4. May 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM
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    Would you bother with changing the shocks on the back...would it even make a difference in stiffness.
     
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    It depends on which AAL and how much lift you want. Stock shocks will do OK with an AAL but, if you off road your truck, you could top them out and blow the shock. The stock shocks also aren't really valved to dampen the leaf pack with an AAL so the ride would suffer a little. When I put in my AAL, I went to 5100's and have been happy with the ride so far. I gained 2" of lift in the rear with the AAL I chose.

    Changing to a higher performing shock isn't really a stiffness issue, its a ride control issue. The stock leaf pack with an AAL is essentially a stronger leaf pack and it will overpower the stock shock's ability to dampen the ride if that makes sense.
     
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    Truck wondering over the road is tiresome to drive and potentially unsafe, especially since the effect is amplified at higher speeds. Out of spec camber doesn't wear out tires as fast as you think, and can be mitigated by rotating tires every year. A lot of OEM SUVs (BMW X5, Mercede ML) run plenty of negative camber stock.

    Stock springs have 14" free length, according to Chris4x4.
    OME 885 have 15.5" free length, according to this page.

    This means a stock spring on a 5100 set at 2.5" is preloaded by a similar amount as an OME 885 spring set at .85". And the OME spring is ~10% stiffer.
     
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    Ok..I will do a 3' lift all the way around. Now..suggestions? What is the safest (keep truck from wondering) 3" lift? My nephew owns a body shop and will have his crew install for me. But since it is my truck and I belong to this forum he wants your suggestions. That doesn't mean the most expensive either...lolololol...:rolleyes:
     
  9. May 30, 2012 at 3:54 PM
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    Whats your budget?
     
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    Browse toyteclifts.com and checkout the bilstein 5100 set up vs the OME set up, either is decent and pretty affordable
     
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    A full 3" lift will require aftermarket UCAs, which will typically cost $500 by themselves. If you want to stay in budget, stick with a 2.5" lift, get Bilstein 5100 shocks, re-use stock coil springs, and install add-a-leafs (AALs) in the rear. Do the alignment like I had written in the previous post.

    Note: I posted links to Toytec out of convenience. Other vendors may have better prices/stock availability.

    Bilstein 5100s AALs New U-bolts when you install AALs
     
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    By the way, the typical collision shop isn't expert at suspension work. Good chance of parts not assembled correctly, bolts not torqued, balljoint boot being torn, etc. Hope your nephew is good at this.
     
  14. May 31, 2012 at 10:34 AM
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    Most of those cars or SUV's have negative camber for better cornering ability. This negative camber ALWAYS wears out the inside edge of the tire, much of the time leaving the outside with plenty of tread left. What you're talking about is positive camber which would not only wear your tires quicker but it'll decrease cornering ability because it promotes the tire's natural tendency to 'roll' in a corner.

    Free length doesn't directly correlate to preload, there's more to it than that. The extended coil length of the OME's is what gives you the lift, not the preload as with the stock coils. To get the same lift out of stock coils that you do with 885's, you need to preload the stock coils 2.5". I would not preload a new set of 885's by setting the 5100's to .85. This will likely result in more than 3" of lift and your CV joints will not be happy.
     
  15. Aug 24, 2012 at 9:29 PM
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    sorry for the super bump but is this without lifting the back? right now i kind of just want to lift the front with a spacer on my 04 trd double cab. will it look stupid or like this? this looks pretty nice too me.
     

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