Oregon and Washington BS thread

got the alignment done today. vib's went away at 30 mph, still some approaching 65mph.



front was off, but the back was untouched, shouldnt have wasted the 40$ for it. cost me 90 for an all wheel alignment.

 

A hidden mount behind the bumper

 

Lol well test it our one of these days!

 

Well obviously the back was good lol its a solid axle rearend.

 

i didnt think to say only front.

 

Nice and clean

 

MT RT03 vs ATM RF10

 

http://youtu.be/Zg2JGuIj9oA

 

What's in the corner? I don't think I've ever asked. I'm getting itchy to sell off mine, but I think it's going to be some time... and really up to how much I get out of my old one. Been looking at an Ibanez RGA72QME and a friend at work says I need to try the RG3XXV.

I'd be mad as hell. It should be obvious for a shop to know that.

 

DO NOT get TreadWright for your daily driver... pleaseeeee. Retreads fail all the time, and its not a good day on a freeway or highway. If it was a trail rig, go for it, but I can't recommend them otherwise. My friend was sponsored by TreadWright when they first emerged, I saw their tires, they're no better than any other retread. You get what you pay for but you're putting yourself and or your family at risk on a daily driver.



On another note, I'm pissed off, I wanted to go Clam Diggin in the morning but I just figured out they closed the season yesterday. F**K!

 

There's my fretless (Vox White Shadow M-Series) and an Ibanez acoustic tucked back there. Ibanez are very versatile guitars, I've had a couple. The tone tends to be really deep and not as crisp. I have an RG320 now, and a BC Rich Bich. I've been eyeing the RGD2120z for a strictly thrash guitar.

Thanks for the advice. I am not in the market for tires, but I will keep that it mind if I research them. I may still pick one up as a spare, since they are the only ones that make a similar MT/R tread.

 

This one's for you Mike:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf8NLesDkY8

*Got some pics too (18 of 'em) but I didn't know if I should post 'em here, or start a new thread...

 

Find me a report that proves retreads failing more than regular tires. This has been discussed ad naseum and results in personal opinion despite proof to the contrary.

Here's a report from the Washington State DOT that says there's no clear evidence suggesting higher failure rates in retreads.

The Arizona DOT and the NHSTA have found the same results.

I can probably find at least 3 more reports of the same.

 

K. Then explain all the treads laying on the side of the highway from commercial trucks. The company my dad works for used to buy them, needless to say they didn't last long and when a retread fails, its rather violent. He is a truck driver and puts millions of miles on his truck. I think I'll take his experience over some survey These people are the same ones that say truck drivers cause accidents and thats why the speed limits for trucks should be much slower than a personal vehicle. Retard central.


I don't care what the results say, I will NEVER buy a set for a daily driver.

 

Oh and might I add that it is MUCH worse if the retreaded tire fails on a steering axle.... possibly even fatal. I don't care how fukkin special that tire is, it can be the strongest fukkin glue possible, it will NOT go on my highway vehicle. Its not worth my life to 'save a few bucks'. Fuck that.

 

new thread for some pics....

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/no...rest-scouting-pics-7-15-12-a.html#post5395230

 

The most compelling (yet biased) report I've read was done by the Tire Retread & Repair Information Bureau, which asks you to look at the treads. If they have the steel belts in them, then it wasn't a failure of the retread, because the retread doesn't contain any steel. (video here).

If this was the only source of information, I would call it propaganda and dismiss it.

However, from the excerpts of the additional reports, I'd say there's a good case for retreads being innocent. The reports were preformed by doctors, agencies, and masters degree students, showing empirical data over a compiled test. I have yet to see a report that even suggests retreads show a danger, other than two news reports where a trucker was interviewed on his opinions, and another where a police report stated retread carcasses played a part in a driving death, even though the incident was mainly blamed due to driver error.

A masters takes 6 years of higher education to complete with a specific focus on a field of study
A doctorate takes at least 8
Agencies specialize and exist solely for their field of specialization.

A trucking job might require a GED
A police officer requires a GED and officer training

I'm not picking on truckers or officers, either. My grandfather was a short-haul trucker for lumber companies, drove an oil truck to fuel farmers, and drove the biggest snow plows Oregon owns through the worst mountain passes. However, he will be the first to admit he hasn't opened a school book since graduating grade school and heading off for work.


Excerpts from the studies in that report I linked:

University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute (UMTRI) :
Maintenance issues (e.g., under-inflation, overloading, tire mismatching, excessive wear, inadequate inspections, and associated matters leading to increased heat and tire operating temperatures) are the major causes of tire blowout
Retread manufacturing processes do not appear to contribute significantly to tire blowouts

Green California
Retreaded tires are safely used on the drive wheels of school buses, fire trucks, ambulances, and other emergency vehicles.
In addition, approximately 80 percent of all aircraft tires in service in the United States are retreaded.
According to the United States Environmental Protection Agency (USEPA), retreaded tires are successfully used on Air Force One

Arizona DOT
e fragments were classified
according to type of vehicle, retread, or original tire, and probable cause of failure. For all types of tires, underinflation and damage due to roadway hazards and debris were the most common causes of tire failure.

John Woodroofe, MS, University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute
Oliver Page, Ph.D., University of Michigan Transportation Research Institute
During summer 2007, the University of Michigan
Transportation Research Institute conducted a national tire debris survey that involved the collection of 85,000 pounds of rubber and that provided 300 casings and 1,196 debris items for subsequent failure analysis... suggests that the majority of tire debris items found on the nation’s highways is not as a result of manufacturing/process deficiencies. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) accepted the results from Woodroofe and Dr. Page as well.


If I continued reading, there is additional tests performed in '95.

On a separate possibility, a video by ABC discusses tire dating (basically, tires have a 'best by' date). It suggests that there is an unmeasured amount of tire failure associated with old tires.

 

DONT get retreads buy my duratracs!!!

 

This is my sort of compelling reason Get that work, son!

 

Seriously I can't put them back on my truck. I took my lift off and I'm basically back to stock. I can't put my 285/75-16s on the truck they just plain don't fit.

18/32" tread left on all 4. They won't be as cheap as retreads but they'll be 100x cooler and no one will give you shit for it.