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Discussion in 'Garage / Workshop' started by Hotdog, Jul 28, 2008.

  1. Jul 17, 2012 at 5:06 PM
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  2. Jul 17, 2012 at 5:08 PM
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    Sorry I forgot. Canada is not on the east coast. Fine then What do you use in Canada a
     
  3. Jul 17, 2012 at 5:18 PM
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    new construction (pretty much all I've done the past 25-35 years):

    1st, of course check R/O for size
    then make any sill adjustment necessary (sometimes I'll build up for wood or tile flooring as necessary so not to eliminate the sill thickness) the build up is usually 1/2" or 3/4" in treated plywood or treated dimensional lumber.

    I ALWAYS check the sill for level, and make necessary adjustments, this makes the head level, and always gives me a good margin between top of door and head jamb. the door jamb sides can be level and the head jamb could still not be. (rookies make this mistake commonly)

    if the door has brick moulding, after applying a good sill sealant (silicone usually) I'll stand her up in the opening...plumb the side jambs, and tack in place through the brick moulding with a few finish nails.

    then I check margins...open and close her a few times, check sweep...then I'll shim and run a few screws through the hinges on the hinge side (some exterior hinges have a pre drilled hole for this, others...I remove a hinge jamb screw)

    then, I adjust and shim the latch side (at least 3, top-mid-bottom, many times more) I Also always shim and attach the head jamb.

    keep in mind, as part of the shimming...I also "rack" the frame in and out (minimally) at the 4 corners to allow the door to come to a close against the stop strip/jamb stop/weather stripping, squarely.

    after I'm happy with the closure and margins...I'll go outside and nail off the brick moulding, or apply scheduled casings.

    I'll add...here in Florida, most new door manufactures have specific installation instructions that HAVE to be followed to pass inspection by the building dept. this, in most cases (including mine) has us install a 3" min screw every 12 inches on both side jambs and the head jamb...and one has to be within 6" of the top & bottom.

    I believe that covers it, except for interior finish/casings.

    I'm typing fast so may have left out a detail
     
  4. Jul 17, 2012 at 5:45 PM
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    Are those vinyl ?
     
  5. Jul 17, 2012 at 5:47 PM
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    Interesting
     
  6. Jul 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM
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    yeah but wordy. I did my best. Easier to show it than explain it in words. but you know that.

    something you do different?
     
  7. Jul 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM
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    Exactly. I have trouble explaining how I do things. But I love to teach people

    But I can only do it hands on

    Here. Buy these. Haha

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    That's the best way I can describe how I do things.

    This is one of the people who have taught me everything I know

    The other is my father who taught my uncle ever thing he thinks he knows
     
  8. Jul 17, 2012 at 7:41 PM
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    I'm 3rd gen carpenter...learned most of what I know from dad...and a few other men who mentored me in the trades when I was a young man.

    I'm a trim and cabinet man by trade, and at 53 still learn from others. It's the beauty of carpentry, every project teaches you something. Its kept my interest for over 40 years.
     
  9. Jul 17, 2012 at 7:49 PM
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    Pretty similar
     
  10. Jul 17, 2012 at 7:50 PM
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    I've read some of Gary Katz's articles
     
  11. Jul 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM
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    because there aren't many ways to do it right :D :thumbsup:

    btw, this past winter, building my new home...I installed all the windows in the main house, myself...and installed the double patio doors on the back porch, myself.

    I had 2 carpenters helping me out with some framing punch out and exterior trim work...told them to go ahead and install the front door (simple single 3/0 x 6/8 fiberglass door with 3/4 glass)...

    after they went home that evening, I spent some time "tweaking" their install. :laugh:
     
  12. Jul 17, 2012 at 8:44 PM
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    Haha honesty. And what you think ?

    I don't all ways see eye to eye with my uncle

    I feel he's more shop based and his ideas work in a perfect world

    But in the field I feel you have to be able to solve problems on the fly and some times just make things work even if it's not 100% perfect
     
  13. Jul 17, 2012 at 8:46 PM
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    As long as the costumer is happy Is truly all that matters.

    And that you are proud of what you built and the craftsmanship of your work
     
  14. Jul 17, 2012 at 8:59 PM
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    That's your uncle ?

    Interesting indeed

    I agree that not all techniques transfer from shop to site , but many do , or form the basis of a good approach to site work
     
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    just finished putting laminate flooring downstairs in my parents house. Now I'm gunna do upstairs, replace the carpet on the stairs with hardwood treads and risers and maybe put tile in the parents' bathroom if time allows. All getting me closer to paying off the taco :D
     
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    I agree

    My great grandfather was an architect , my grandfather a general contractor , mason by trade , my uncle and dad carpenters and now there's me
     
  17. Jul 18, 2012 at 5:26 AM
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    Im going to have to get those books. I am getting ready to replace 1/2 of the interior doors in my house this fall. The other half once the wife decides on the flooring for second story of the house.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up. I'm cheap so I just put in a request at the library so I can check them out:rolleyes: B4 spending $. Thanks again.
     
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    Good call on the library I am going to have to check there first.
     
  20. Jul 18, 2012 at 7:03 AM
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    Respectfully, I don't necessarily agree with the fist sentence.

    Most home buyers don't know squat. And honestly, all they see is the granite and appliances and tile and light fixtures. Plus once decorated...most crappy finish work disappears.

    I have really seen the bar lowered in the market place. and, I'm not just talking tract housing. I see McMansions built for crap. Yes, when done they have all the bling, but I watch them go up and many (most) are going to be an expensive and full time repair gig down the road.

    I have been in multi-million dollar new custom homes with out of square tile or wood flooring...doors that don't open/close properly...improperly installed trim/mill work...and stairways with inconsistent treads/risers...and handrails that I wouldn't trust. And I just scratched the surface...

    my point is...all those customers "are happy". And the builder doesn't care about the structual (so long as it gets through inspection)...the mechanical...and especially the finishing work.

    Customer is happy...got the check...when the windows leak, or roof leaks...they can handle that through insurance. (I actually heard this once)

    The second part of your post I agree with. I build every home like it is my own. I care about every little detail as if I was going to have ownership/maintenance down the road.

    Most don't. Heck...most builders are not hands on, and manage the construction from an office across town. Some never seen the inside of many of their homes. Serious.
     

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