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So, I totaled my truck....pics

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 2006_TOY_TACO, Jul 17, 2012.

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  1. Jul 18, 2012 at 7:09 PM
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    Pyramidsurf

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    The difference is one doesn't violate their constitutional rights and the other does.

    Once again, I think you and the other person need to look up the definition of profiling in the legal context.
     
  2. Jul 18, 2012 at 7:13 PM
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    my point being this guy is a douchecanoe for even thinking about drinking and driving


    and i am the 10%
     
  3. Jul 18, 2012 at 7:14 PM
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  4. Jul 18, 2012 at 7:14 PM
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    There's a big difference between what "profiling" we do each day and the profiling a LEO can do.

    If I profile someone when I see them that's all I can do. Make an aussumption based on what I see, but that's it.

    A LEO on the other hand could profile someone and then pull them over, administer a FST, and then charge them with DUI.
     
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    Wait really? Haha I didn't even know that. Got a link to a list of states with those exceptions/lack of official laws? I have a guess as to which ones don't...
     
  6. Jul 18, 2012 at 7:17 PM
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    I have heard some states have special drinking regulations for underage people as well. I don't know any specifics though.
     
  7. Jul 18, 2012 at 7:20 PM
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    The Maryland Underage Drinking Prevention Coalition (MUDPC) summarizes the provisions of the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 as follows:
    The legal age for alcohol in the USA is 21 years old. The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 required all states to raise their minimum purchase and public possession of alcohol age to 21. States that did not comply faced a reduction in highway funds under the Federal Highway Aid Act. The U.S. Department of Transportation has determined that all states are in compliance with this act. The national law specifically prohibits purchase and public possession of alcoholic beverages. It does not prohibit persons under 21 (also called youth or minors) from drinking. The term "public possession" is strictly defined and does not apply to possession for the following:


    • An established religious purpose, when accompanied by a parent, spouse or legal guardian age 21 or older
    • Medical purposes when prescribed or administered by a licensed physician, pharmacist, dentist, nurse, hospital or medical institution
    • In private clubs or establishments
    • In the course of lawful employment by a duly licensed manufacturer, wholesaler or retailer.” 1 (Emphasis in original. Conspicuously not emphasized is the significant fact that “the law does not prohibit persons under 21 (also called youth or minors) from drinking.”)
    The U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO) subsequently identified 19 states which did not specifically prohibit the consumption of alcohol by persons under the age of 21. However, those states are in compliance with the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984. It would appear that such states could legally only charge underage persons with public possession of alcohol, not underage drinking.
    The title of the legislation itself is clearly misleading in that the National Minimum Age Drinking Act doesn’t prohibit drinking by persons under the age of 21 (so-called “underage” persons) nor does it require the states to prohibit such drinking. In addition, descriptions of the law contribute to the false belief that it does. For example, the assertion that “the legal age for alcohol in the USA is 21 years old” clearly leaves the false impression that the minimum legal drinking age for alcohol is 21.
     
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    So Federal law only prohibits minors from purchase and public possession.
     
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    Good going Rich, now some kid getting busted somewhere is going to jail saying, "but this smart guy on TW said. . ." haha
     
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    I can't wait for the thread! :D
     
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    this thread is still alive!? ahhhh hahaha
     
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    I would say this thread is on hospice....
     
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    That's not true. The National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 only withholds revenue from states which allow the purchase of alcohol by anyone under the age of 21. It does not "outlaw drinking under the age of 21," as you said. Your other comment is wrong as well, but, in the interests of avoiding a long argument, I digress.
     
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    There is no constitutional right against profiling. The courts have only addressed racial profiling (assuming possible guilt based solely on race), not profiling in general.
     
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    haha curious to see how many comments/views this is gonna get, and how long its gonna be on the main page!:rofl:
     
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    Everyone forgot about OP already, until now
     
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    Wikipedia has a pretty good page listing the various drinking laws in each state. Absent that or another site, you'll probably have to look up each state individually.
     
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    Purchase and public consumption. It's a legal loophole setup by the federal government. If you get caught in public underage and you were drinking, you'll be charged.

    If you're caught DUI underage, you'll most definitely have the charge of underage DUI (even though it's not technically a crime to consume it, it is a crime to be in public).

    But I'll give you that. It's always been illegal for me because of the military.
     
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    The only bad drunk drivers are the ones without enough practice! :cool:
     
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