Churches tax free?

Ask yourself the two questions I posted above.

 

The guy who wrote it though differently.


[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Verdana]Thomas Jefferson, third president and author of the Declaration of Independence, said:"I trust that there is not a young man now living in the United States who will not die a Unitarian." He referred to the Revelation of St. John as "the ravings of a maniac" and wrote:
The Christian priesthood, finding the doctrines of Christ levelled to every understanding and too plain to need explanation, saw, in the mysticisms of Plato, materials with which they might build up an artificial system which might, from its indistinctness, admit everlasting controversy, give employment for their order, and introduce it to profit, power, and pre-eminence. The doctrines which flowed from the lips of Jesus himself are within the comprehension of a child; but thousands of volumes have not yet explained the Platonisms engrafted on them: and for this obvious reason that nonsense can never be explained." [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Verdana]From:
Thomas Jefferson, an Intimate History by Fawn M. Brodie, p. 453 (1974, W.W) Norton and Co. Inc. New York, NY) Quoting a letter by TJ to Alexander Smyth Jan 17, 1825, and Thomas Jefferson, Passionate Pilgrim by Alf Mapp Jr., pp. 246 (1991, Madison Books, Lanham, MD) quoting letter by TJ to John Adams, July 5, 1814.[/FONT]

 

John Adams - "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."

Benjamin Franklin - "As to Jesus of Nazareth, my Opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the System of Morals and his Religion...has received various corrupting Changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his Divinity; tho' it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the Truth with less trouble."

Alexander Hamilton - christian

John Jay - christian

Thomas Jefferson - "The doctrines which flowed from the lips of Jesus himself are within the comprehension of a child; but thousands of volumes have not yet explained the Platonisms engrafted on them: and for this obvious reason that nonsense can never be explained."

James Madison - "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."

George Washington - never declared himself a Christian according to contemporary reports or in any of his voluminous correspondence.

 

we can do this all night long...

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/10/judeochristian_values.html

Judeo-Christian Values in America have a basis in the Declaration of Independence:

[FONT=times new roman,times]"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..." [/FONT]
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THOSE questions. I should have been a little clearer, sorry.

 

notice how it says Creator not God?

you're interpreting that to suit your argument.


this requires no interpretation:
John Adams - "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."

 

Thanks to my mom I get rights!! WOOT!

 

fact remains:

non believers are going to post in this thread that churches and places of worship should be "taxed". Many not knowing much at all about tax law or property tax assements or exemptions.

one poster thinks everything including the moon should be taxed.

many who don't believe will use the thread to try to advance their agenda. that's fine, but no one here is going to change anyone's faith...or lack of.

some complaign that some places of worship are to large or too grand...who cares? do those same folks think many ball parks are too large or cost too much to build? you do know many sports parks/arenas get special property tax exemptions, right? heck...some city governments participate in the cost of building the complexes.

how about the elderly or handicapped?...should their property tax exemptions be discontinued as well?

my point is...
it is not as simple as many would make it. and just because one does not believe, or DOES believe in God...or has or not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior and redeemer...

has little or nothing to do with property assessment tax law...its exemptions. and has zero to do with the seperation of church & state.

 

like I posted...

"we could do this all night long"...

You can...I won't.

Excuse me for diving into areas that are not part of the OP.

 

If you believe your mom has the power to create life...fine.

others believe she has the power to procreate and carry life in her womb until birth, created by a higher power.

but, like I posted above...
excuse me for exploring areas not part of the OP.

 

yes

 

off topic...

btw, what would property tax assessment be on say:
a 3br-2ba-2car gar, 2000 sq ft HVAC home on a 1/2 acre lot
(in a recorded subdivision...paved streets...underground utlilties...bla bla bla)

 

Depends where

Where I live , that would probably be assessed at about $450-$500K

 

and depending on milleage rate, tax liability in dollars?

(not including any exemptions)

 

this is the best summary of Canadian property tax exemptions I could find, religious and charitable organizations starts on pg 18.

http://www.muniscope.ca/_files/file...&filename=file_an_examination_of_canadian.pdf

 

in Edmonton, a home with an assessed valued of $450,000 would have a property tax liability of $3455.78.

http://coewebapps3.edmonton.ca/taxcalculator/default.aspx

 

Thanks
Interesting read...I only skimmed it so far.

"Their charitable purpose has become the contemporary justification for exemption"

seems the Canadian property tax law agrees with the position of a few in this thread.

 

that's probably twice what it would be here in Florida...and I can walk to the bay even our last home that was larger and right acrosss the street from the beach (Gulf of Mexico) was under $2000.00 (including flood)

of course, here in Florida we have the homestead exemption...and no income taxes. Woot!

now...if we could just get the feds to drop the cap gains tax...I'd be golden.

(btw, the guy in the WH wants to double the cap gain tax from 15% to 30%...guess who I'm not voting for. L0L)

 

checked the MLS listings in Edmonton to see what $450,000 to $500,000 will get you...

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetails.aspx?propertyId=11632560&PidKey=1807470307

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetails.aspx?propertyId=11950819&PidKey=-1144298573

 

damn! that sucks.

here...in the current market...450K-500K gets you a REAL NICE brand new home. or an older (10-20 years) home on the bay. or a nice place near the beach...maybe with a view.