dumb manual transmission question starting on a hill

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Using the handbrake is not a good idea as it forces your car's engine. This trick doesn't need you to use the handbrake.
1: When ready to go, gear to first without letting your foot off the brake!
2: Let the clutch go little by little (without letting the foot
off the brake.) until you feel your car vibrating
3: As soon as you feel the vibration, let your foot go off the brake and press the gas pedal slowly.
Don't let your car vibrate to much it can turn off.
1, 2 and 3! You won't roll back and inch! Also let me know if you want to know important tips about going up or downhill!

 

They switch the location of the ebrake in manual tacomas. My mom has an auto 2nd gen with the pedal brake and my friend has a manual 2nd gen with the hand brake. I have a pre-tacoma manual and it has the exact same ebrake as the modern tacomas, down to the font of the writing. I'm pretty sure all manuals have hand brakes so that you can save yourself, but probably not the best thing to do frequently, and so that there's enough room for brake, clutch, and gas under the steering wheel.

I would say just practice. If your accelerator pedal sticks a little I think you can adjust it so that it's smoother (though I think that's not a problem with tacomas, it was with my dad's GMC Sierra and he fixed it easily). Definitely get used to where your clutch engages. That's the biggest thing that helped me. I know that's been said before, but perhaps more input helps.

 

If theres one thing I've learned from driving stick its that you kinda have to feel it out yourself its really hard to have someone explain it to you. Practice makes perfect

 

When I launch my boat the ramps pretty steep and I will usually use the ebrake as a roll assist, go to a non busy hill and just keep trying till you find something you like

 

it does what to your engine?
best thing to do is practice. if you feel that someone is very close behind there is nothing wrong with using the hand brake. i usually blip the gas just a little as soon as i lift the foot brake and then let out the clutch. this will give you time to match the clutch and the rpms without rolling back much at all.

 

This is a bit of a zombie thread, but as long as I'm here...

The real key I usually tell new drivers to simply ignore the hill. Unless you're VERY new to driving a clutch and still have some issues on flat starts, chances are most of the time when stopped, you have no problems letting the clutch out while switching from brake to gas to get the car moving. It really does become instinct, and most of the time *when you're not thinking about it*, you just go... The problem is once you're on an incline, now your brain gets in the way and you start to think about it too much, and what would normally be a simple, thoughtless task suddenly has you baffled and nervous.

Just know this, ok, so the vehicle may drift a little, so what? If some a$$hole is really that close to you, you're truck won't gain enough momentum on a driftback to do any major damage anyway, but 99% of the time, you have some room. The other thing is that the engine is strong enough to move the vehicle forward with normal acceleration, you don't need to give it more gas or operate pedals any faster than normal...and if you really do just start out as you normally would, I can almost guarantee you won't drift back at all anyway.

So to recap: Just ignore the hill. Trust yourself, you know how to operate your vehicle, you'll be fine.

Even if you're a novice just learning to drive standard, it's still good advice. Get comfortable stopping and starting on flat surfaces, then find some hills to practice on where there's no traffic to make you nervous.

I learned to drive manual on an '86 4Runner with the same style pull e-brake that current manual Tacomas have, and I found that trying to incorporate the ebrake into a hill start only added additional elements (making my brain having to think about doing more things simultaneously), and that having to release it while operating the vehicle was quite awkward (compared to the more common pull e-brake on the side), so I just said to hell with this, and decided I'd learn to hill start better without it.

 

it just takes practice

hope OP figured it out lol

 

yea, i only use the e-brake in extreme situations like at the launch ramp and have found it useful in some off road situations. whether you have the 4 or 6 cyl truck it has plenty of torque to do as others have posted.

foot on brake, slowly let clutch out untill it starts to grab and drags your idle down. move over to the gas and feed throttle and clutch together (as normal on flat ground) and you be rollin. i learned to drive manual at like thirteen but never in real traffic with hills till like 19 and i understand your problem. hills freaked me out.

i used to just stop and immediately let the truck roll back until the car behind me would freak out and stop like 20ft short lol. lets em know whats goin on

 

TOOOO FUNNY

What if there isn't a car behind you? how do you get moving?

 

Use the closest light pole, or if you have a passenger, ask them to act as a wheel chock.

 

With time, you'll be able to take off without rolling back an inch. You just have to get the feel of your truck.

 

Thats a good way to get punched in the face.

 

Dam straight. My god the mentality of these shitty drivers.

 

I'm gonna have to try that.

Just so I understand correctly, when you mean SLOWLY rest against the car, you use 4lo and reverse until it stops firmly, right?

 

I've got several hundred thousand miles on 18 wheelers, and no one has ever said anything when I roll back and let the trailer gently rest on the car behind me whilst I figure out how to let the clutch and engine engage without killing the engine.
Maybe another couple hundred thou will get me good enough that I can do it without using the vehicle behind me.

Seriously, with practice, I'm guessing you roll back about half an inch.
Using the E Brake is not a good habit to get into. Practice.

 

practice , practice and then more practice. One trick i use sometimes if i'm on a steep hill i will put the truck in reverse ( your back up lights should be on) and when vehicles are comming up behind ya let the truck roll back a little bit, this will stop those cars from comming too close and give you some room to roll back if ya need it.

 

Heel and toe, practice on flat ground. Depending on the size of your feet it can be easy or not so easy. What I do is place my left heel on the brake, and front half of my foot depressing the clutch then my right on the gas obviously, let out the clutch til you feel it grab than slowly release the brake and off you go. Handbrake is nice, but none of the e-brakes work on my other 4x4s so this is the only technique to use on a hill. My dad uses his right heel and toe for the brake and gas, and uses his left only for the clutch, try both ways and see what works best for you.

 

I thought that the heel-toe method was with the right foot doing both the gas and brake and the left foot only the clutch. It seems to me that my clutch would go in too far for my foot to manipulate both that and the brake, but I guess I'll have to try it now. Your way seems more logical to me, since you let out both the clutch and the brake when you start moving whereas with my way you have to let off the brake while pushing down on the gas.

 

Its a little difficult, but when you got a size 13 foot its easy! Try it out though.