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From Pick-up to Tacoma...what changed.

Discussion in 'New Members' started by Oengus1963, Aug 23, 2012.

  1. Aug 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM
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    Oengus1963

    Oengus1963 [OP] Member

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    I am tired of the crap, I had a 1992 and it was bullet proof, the 2004 I have now is “nicer” bigger and more refined, then the 2005 and later are totally different and have too many defects. They are not any faster they feel numb compared to the 1992. The 1992 did not even have power steering it did not need it and it handled so well at speed. It shifted so good and so tight and the clutch was awesome.

    I want a 1992 engine and drive train and the gas mileage that came with its 112hp engine. For those that believe that is not enough HP, you never owned that engine, I did and it was actually more responsive, it was very peppy.

    Toyota has an opportunity, they can resurrect that drive train and stick it into the same chassis it came in and skin it to look like the FJ. But they won’t because they are all about bigger and more and higher prices and bigger profits.

    They can make a really bullet proof highly utilitarian vehicle that looks the part, but they won’t because the consumers want just what they asked for, bigger more refined, more power….do not get me wrong the new Tacoma look great but they are not what they were and they are ridding on the laurels of the bullet proof 200,000 mile totally reliable predecessor that is long gone. The base truck needs to come back, it need to come back as a compact and totally basic, vinyl floors and seat included.
     
  2. Aug 23, 2012 at 9:58 AM
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    jtav2002

    jtav2002 Kenny Fuckin Powers

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    Cool story. FWIW there are 1st and 2nd gens with 200k miles. As far as them sacrificing what you want for profits, they're a company. They're in business to make money. Find one company that isn't. I have no issue with them offering a truck like that, but its certainly not for everyone. A regular cab 112hp truck would be of no use to me.
     
  3. Aug 23, 2012 at 9:59 AM
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    Pugga

    Pugga Pasti-Dip Free 1983 - 2015... It was a good run

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    Ummm.... ok :confused:
     
  4. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:01 AM
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    Jester243

    Jester243 all I wanted was a god dang picture of a hotdog...

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    some of this, a little of that
    Welcome
     
  5. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:06 AM
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    cgs2k2

    cgs2k2 old man

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    .......................yeah i hate tacomas! i wish trucks had no airbags and under 100hp to the wheels! i hate power steering and comfortable seats! i hate the ability to safely transport my family! i especially hate all these fancy doo-dads like AC, power windows, and CD players! somebody gimme a god damn a-trac!
     
  6. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:12 AM
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    Oengus1963

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    I bought the 1992 in 1992 and it only got oil changes and two sets of brakes and one tire change in thirteen years. The only problem it had was that the frame rusted away, they could coat the frame and it would never rust.

    I am also feed up with "passive restraints" can I sign a waiver and then get it without air bags? The seat belt warning was only a light that blinked and then shut off, not a fecking fire alarm, that makes you feel like a dog being trained.
     
  7. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:14 AM
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    stmpjmpr

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    then go get one.
     
  8. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:15 AM
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    sofiasdad11

    sofiasdad11 Reads more than posts

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    ^^^^^this. reminds me of riding in my uncles '72 volkswagon beetle as a kid (no, he didn't touch me) and his admiration of the capabilities of that small german-designed engine, only later to lament the "new" beetle and it's "fancy" interior :confused: Seriously, give the 2nd gen taco a chance, you may be pleasantly surprised. Personally, i'll take my '11 DCLB over an early 70's-model truck, of any brand, any day:D
     
  9. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:18 AM
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    Taco Dan

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    first of all, welcome. have you ever driven a second gen tacoma OP? sounds like you are depraving yourself. trucks have come along way since 1993, and the pros definately outweigh the cons.
     
  10. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:21 AM
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    ChamYota

    ChamYota Crash Bandicoot Or Groot AKA Cham "Scottalot" Yota

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    Why are you here again? ._. Whats the point of ranting about how much you hate newer tacomas that arent your preference? >.> Looks like you want attention, well you've got it now. Just go out and keep driving your truck till the wheels fall off. Then go buy a 2nd or a 1st gen :D
     
  11. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:21 AM
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    krimson

    krimson Nothin

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    Is this a rant thread?
     
  12. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:24 AM
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    Oengus1963

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    There is no significant difference in performance between the 112hp engine and the 159hp with exception to the gas mileage. I know I've driven both, The 2004 has a 127hp and the differences are negligible, I bought a 2010 with 12k and took it back the second day, it had a defective clutch pedal, moved laterlaly and creaked and the previous owner I think damaged the syncromesh, the head mechanic said they all whine between 1st and 2nd, that one whined like a bitch. I should have backed off when I seen the led aftermarket lights on the 2010, a kid owned it.
     
  13. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:29 AM
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    ChamYota

    ChamYota Crash Bandicoot Or Groot AKA Cham "Scottalot" Yota

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    Dude you got a lemon. Chill... I swear it feels like there are kids inside of grown men sometimes. lol
     
  14. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:32 AM
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    I've seen old men with worse taste in car modification then this "kid" just putting led lights on a truck. Led lights are pretty good for light output but you probably hate them because they weren't made in 1992.
     
  15. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:34 AM
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    Correction they made them but weren't widely used in automotive lighting
     
  16. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:39 AM
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    krap22

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    It's ok, I like my 236 hp 2nd gen too.
     
  17. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:39 AM
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    HIYota

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    Welcome! You'll go far in this community :thumbsup: :jerkoff:
     
  18. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:46 AM
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    Duhhhh everyone knows LEDs and stickers add horse power!!!
     
  19. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:47 AM
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    so whats something you do like about youre 2004 OP?
     
  20. Aug 23, 2012 at 10:47 AM
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