A-TRAC/TRAC/AUTO LSD Explained (Easy to understand, I hope!)

Why do you bother man??

 

Ehhh...More or less the same.

 

More or less 53pages of boredom lol..

 

Still never comment on my Videos David.......... No comments????

 

the guy in the fj cant drive

 

Looks like his tires weren't aired down and he wasn't mashing the gas pedal to wake up atrac as dk would say hahahabhahaahhaba

 

Not enough beers either!

 

Cheers-but I no can have any drinking-Gotta fly in a few hours...

 

I just saw the most recent post on page 48 and need to say this:

This douche hattery by members of this board is the type of crap that has driven me away. I realize no one here could give a shit about that.

Anyway from my vantage point David K has always done a pretty good job of explaining how ATRAC is and what it's for. He has gone way over the top in an attempt to be helpful. I don't think I've ever seen or him try to be a douche to anyone here - something that I can not say for myself.

Then we we have the douche nozzles (and I say this with a sense of respect to some of the ass hat wearing crowd since I like most of them too). This flaming shit for some sense of self-aggrandizing, pompous, "I have spools and 54s!" status is just plain silly... or worse yet a good deal of douche hattery. And before you tag me with the same. I already own that for myself.

I can add that I do like lockers and since I have it (most of the ass hat crowd now speaking do not - they just, as they would like to say, are Haters.)

Anyway, carry on if you must.

 

One last thing... David. How many ring and pinions have your toasted?

 

None over here

 

lol

 

And on a more serious note... I hope there is a thread in here for the e-locker delete mod - for anyone that wants to beat the crap out of their truck without having to replace the ring and pinion every 10 months!

 

Start one!

 

That's like putting condom after instead of before.
Same reason why that traction system blows in winter. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.
It's not rocket science.

 

Hi Paul,

It is nice to have an adult like yourself contribute on Tacoma World... Thank you for not letting the 'children' chase you totally away!

As you say, I have tried to test and explain the FACTORY systems here as best as I can, and show or explain that A-TRAC does work for getting through most of the tough trails we could possibly want to take a non-lifted Tacoma over... the road to Mission Santa Maria de los Angeles (and beyond), being a good example. Pulling 2WD trucks up the Diablo Dropoff and the Werk Run drop, as well... show that A-TRAC is FAR more than open differentials and a rear locker only. On the MSM run, I never used my rear locker, only A-TRAC for traction assist... and as you witnessed I had not one issue climbing or going through the 3 ft. deep mud bog. Only the non-locked and non A-TRAC 4Runner needed help (both ways) in the bog.


Also, as you asked... never a differential issue (so far)!

Take care Paul... I hope we can wheel together again... !! YOU ROCK!!

 

Whatever... A-TRAC comes with the truck, a front locker does not.

Front lockers are awesome... but a new Tacoma owner may not need that to wheel in wild places if he was wise enough to buy the Off Road TRD 4WD.

 

May need it to wheel in wild places! ?

Wow

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VHxslTiQug

LOL Hey that's me years ago, with my completely Stock FJ Cruiser, still even running with the STOCK Dunflop tires.

That sand area is the softest sand I have found in the Tampa Bay area. That is why I thought it was a good place for a test, (the place is closed down now, so no new testing my new 2012 Tacoma 4x4 with the same conditions. Boo Hiss..)

But with the FJ Cruiser, the "A-Trac" would basically keep ALL four tires spinning. But I found out that using the "Rear-Locker" with the "A-Trac" on, worked best. Since my FJ Cruiser was one of the first ones sold, I had to do the "Hack" or "Mod" to allow the Rear Locker AND the A-Trac to work at the same time (disabling that option was a very dumb thing that Toyota did to do the first FJ Cruisers, but soon after they made that option available on the newer FJ Cruisers.)

Years later, I went out to that same place with REAL Mud Tires and they actually did worse in the sand. (But the mud tires work MUCH better in almost every other obstacle!) The Mud Tires wanted to dig in instead of just float on the sand. So I had to be more careful with them.

Conclusions!

I love A-Trac and the Rear Locker! And I use them together for a lot of my obstacle attacks.

On steep hills and other obstacles I really do not like A-Trac by itself. In my experience when A-Trac is used alone the truck can and does have a jerkier ascent or forward motion because of the constant computer changing the rotation of the different wheels. But with the REAR LOCKER and A-Trac, the Rear Locker stops most of that jerkiness and it is much easier to creep up steep obstacles without losing any momentum. Of course once through or over the obstacle, I shut off the Rear Locker.

Just my Humble Opinion. I do use the same technique with the Tacoma 4x4 also.

One caveat, I should mention! I did not read the reads of the posts in this thread. I just saw my FJ Cruiser testing Video (while searching for a different subject) and thought I would comment. So I have no idea what the later posts have said. As soon as I have some free time, (when???) I will scan the other posts in this thread.

PaulThePhotographer

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Added after looking at few pages of posts!

One thing, that I believe and that some people might NOT understand about using A-Trac, is that you need to keep the all tires spinning! One video I saw of a Fj Cruiser that could not get out of a muddy deep rut, seemed to me that he kept stopping, just before the A-Trac would kick in and help spin the wheels. For me I LIKE really spinning the tires in those situations. I even put it into like 2nd to keep them tires spinning fast. It not only helps engage the A-Trac but also really helps to keep cleaning out the lugs of the mud tires, which in turn really helps the mud tires grab better. Two great advantages with a slight change of driving/wheeling attack. IMHO.

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