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Your perfect snow build?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by AlaskanTaco, Sep 17, 2012.

  1. Sep 19, 2012 at 10:24 PM
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    jmg256

    jmg256 Calmer than you are

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    Those snow pants remind me if this...
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    Anyone else?
     
  2. Sep 20, 2012 at 8:06 AM
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    You do NOT want to float on slush driving down the highway. :eek:
     
  3. Sep 20, 2012 at 8:46 AM
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    Because it's often a bully tactic, used when incontrovertible proof isn't really practical. On the rare occasion I've seen anyone actually try to provide third party evidence in one of these debates, the result is usually that the challenger pisses all over the source and everybody just gets madder. Nine times out of ten on an internet forum, "prove it" just ends any productive discussion.
     
  4. Sep 20, 2012 at 8:58 AM
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    If you've got the cash go with the mattracks for the winter.

    Or for tires Blizzaks or Duratracs.

    If you are going off road get some wide tires.
    If you are staying on road get some skinny tires.

    A set of chains can help with traction when pulling someone out of the snow.

    Winch.

    And last a locker in the rear and the front if you can swing it.
     
  5. Sep 20, 2012 at 8:58 AM
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    If you've got the cash go with the mattracks for the winter.

    Or for tires Blizzaks or Duratracs.

    If you are going off road get some wide tires.
    If you are staying on road get some skinny tires.

    A set of chains can help with traction when pulling someone out of the snow.

    Winch.

    And last a locker in the rear and the front if you can swing it.
     
  6. Sep 20, 2012 at 9:04 AM
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    If you've got the cash go with the mattracks for the winter.

    Or for tires Blizzaks or Duratracs.

    If you are going off road get some wide tires.
    If you are staying on road get some skinny tires.

    A set of chains can help with traction when pulling someone out of the snow.

    Winch.

    And last a locker in the rear and the front if you can swing it.
     
  7. Sep 20, 2012 at 9:16 AM
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    Wow Utard... triple post often? Might want to delete a couple of those.
     
  8. Sep 20, 2012 at 9:33 AM
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    My web connection has gone retarded:eek:
     
  9. Sep 20, 2012 at 9:35 AM
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    You got any evidence to back this up? Prove it!:rolleyes:
     
  10. Sep 20, 2012 at 10:06 AM
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    None yet, need to finish the HEEP first
  11. Sep 20, 2012 at 10:08 AM
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    I moded 1999 Taco so much it had turned to Land Cruiser
    How is asking for proof a bully tactic?
    Police asks us for proof (Driver license)
    Town, schools asks us for proof of residence (deed or lease)
    If skinny tires were better, then we would have tons of videos of trucks running on skinny tires through the woods covered with snow.
     
  12. Sep 20, 2012 at 10:16 AM
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    You are grasping straws here. OP can drive what he wants its his truck and his money.
    that does not change the fact that perfect truck build for snow is Arctic Hilux
    and it uses wide tires.
    All snow run trucks are using wider tires as video evidence proves (video from Oregon is one of many that can be found on the net)

    Therefore "Skinny tires are better for winter" theory is BS. And this is what I called people on it and asked to prove it.
     
  13. Sep 20, 2012 at 10:22 AM
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    Wide tires are great for flotation , skinny tires are great for cutting through snow

    One excels at depths above 2' of snow , one excels at depths below 2' .

    Most maintained roads have less than 2'

    Figure out where you plan on driving most of the time go from there
     
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  15. Sep 20, 2012 at 10:25 AM
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    snowtank Where the fuck did my beer go!

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    I want some of those tank treads! But all in all you all helped me too. I had the same question. I dont need it to go to work just to go out and play. But thanks for the info. But you definitely need the bumber and winch. Allpro makes a nice set up. Dont skimp on a good winch tho.
     
  16. Sep 20, 2012 at 10:47 AM
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    You are correct about snow run trucks. Confusion for the rest of us is how that helps the op. he wants to be the hero pulling out co workers on the way to work. So if there is ice covered in a foot of light and fluffy. Fat tires won't help.

    To use your own analogy of skates. What is better in Ice. Skates or shoes?
     
  17. Sep 20, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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    This is an internet forum, not a police interrogation room, and not a doctoral thesis. People will respond with what they [think they] know, right or wrong.

    And in fact, proof HAS been provided in this thread. There's a picture of some snow rally cars a few pages back, tires looked crazy narrow.

    Or are you asking for a mathematical proof? In which case, to what degree backwards would we need to provide proof? Should we start with 'cogito ergo sum' and derive forward from there? My point, of course, is that if you are given a proof one degree backwards, then you may demand proof that the proof is correct. Proof that the proof of the proof is correct, etc., and eventually one of those steps will go over your head, so it won't satisfy you and you'll dismiss the entire thing. Or you could be a complete genius and believe and understand every single step along the way, and then dismiss 'cogito ergo sum' as invalid, since it is an unavoidable assumption at the very root of every complete derivation.

    I think in this case, the picture of the rally cars is adequate proof of the performance benefits of narrow tires on snow, because surely, if wide tires were better for those conditions, they'd be equipped with 315's.

    The problem with snow, is that there are lots of different kinds of snow, lots of different depths of snow. There is no "one size fits all" solution to this that you can use to conclude that "X is always the best on snow". No, rather "X is always the best on THIS SPECIFIC TYPE of snow" is the best you can hope for. Yes, those arctic expedition trucks are impressive, but I sure wouldn't want to be using one of those for a daily commute.

    In the end, the OP must make a choice, a compromise that best suits his specific needs, which from everything provided, appears to be primarily plowed roads.
     
  18. Sep 20, 2012 at 10:59 AM
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    lolz....

    I say stock tires for 2' of snow aired down to 20psi. If you need anything else you shouldn't be out driving and your a p*ssy!

    [​IMG]

    about 4-5' deep here
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  19. Sep 20, 2012 at 11:04 AM
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    Depends if you planning to slide or walk on it. :D
    This why skinny tires are NOT better in winter.
    They will work just like skates. With exception that rubber will not let you control side slide.
    Wide tires act like shoes, they not perfect but they are less likely to slide and if they do they will not slide as easy as skates do. Thats why Canadian hockey team does not use 2x4 strapped to their feet.
     
  20. Sep 20, 2012 at 11:06 AM
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    They are metal blades. But wouldn't you agree that given the same person wearing. A 1cm wide blade will dig into the ice more than a 10 cm blade?
     

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