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Any fellow survivalists utilize their truck?

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by Jez, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. Oct 9, 2012 at 9:28 PM
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    I find it very hard to believe that a person could deflect an arrow with a katana. If you noticed the girl wasn't getting a full draw and therefor the arrow wasn't flying at max velocity which would make it harder to see.
    I do agree that a Bow would be a poor defense weapon...compared to a gun or a sword, but it's still very effective.
     
  3. Oct 10, 2012 at 2:25 PM
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    I think I would go with a crossbow. I saw a guy put 5 arrows through the same hole in target one time. He had a scope on it, but I bet it would be pretty sick with an aimpoint comp m4 red dot IMO.
     
  4. Oct 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM
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    It's not impossible for a person to deflect an arrow, however doing it with any kind of consistency is not. I would happily challenge anyone to try and deflect an arrow from a bow, shot at full draw with a normal arrowhead on it (not a safety/indoor head).
     
  6. Oct 10, 2012 at 3:15 PM
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    Remember though pending shit hits the fan annnnnd there is Zombies, noise can draw in more... Its good to have an array of weapons. Oh the possibilities are endless.
     
  7. Oct 10, 2012 at 3:53 PM
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    .22 if shtf. I could feed my family almost forever. It's quiet, cheap, ammo is easy to store. Perfect for the apocalypse.
     
  8. Oct 10, 2012 at 3:55 PM
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  9. Oct 10, 2012 at 4:10 PM
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    Couldnt agree more! Damn regulations!

    I live in the Republic of Calif. so chances of ever "legally" owning one are about as real as me and whoever the hottest chic on the planet is right now hooking up.
     
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    Number one thing everyone needs for proper preparedness. I cannot stress this enough. All the bags on here are great ideas until you put one on your back and walk cross country 12 hours a day. Better make sure you have a couple good pairs of broken in boots in those bags as well.

    I tell people this all the time and no one listens. You can only move as fast as your slowest man.

    I keep multiples of SOF tourniquets, quickclot and hemacon in the all the vehicles. I know first hand how fast people bleed out and it'll never be one of my family members while we wait on paramedics. Quicklot is pretty much idiot proof, hemacon requires a little more intelligence but not much.

    Choose weapons with NATO rounds. There are stockpiles all over the world. 5.56mm, 7.62, and 9mm are the easiest. For if shit does get bad, those calibers will be widely available. Either through battlefield recovery or taking by force.

    If I could sum this up based on actual experience of carrying 100lbs or more on my back for over 45 days at a time in hostile environments it'd be this, don't do it. It's a pain in the ass and there is a reason a very small percentage of the military actually do it.

    Instead I'd recommend this:

    PT. Not just going to the gym. Cardio, weight vests, etc. These endurance races are great to test your level. I recommend about an hour to an hour and a half daily. I highly recommend www.rosstraining.com. Guy has some great stuff. At 36, I completed the Tough Mudder in 11 degree weather in Feb. in Ga. Finished 12.5 miles with 25 obstacles in 2:07. Point is, just because you have a family and start pushing age you can still push your physical limits daily.

    Stock up on stuff at home: food, water, multivitamins, protein powders, basic and advanced medical supplies, etc.

    Keep a nice stock of ammunition and then set up reloading benches in those calibers with enough primers, powder and materials to reload what you shoot. This should include parts that are prone to wear and breakage on your equipment and weapons. For all the Berretta 92 lovers out there, stock up on locking blocks, they only last about 10k rounds and when they go you have to do a complete tear down to fix it. One of the main reasons I'll never carry one again.

    Make a bag that's weight is no more than 30% of your body weight and keep that in the truck in case you have to abandon the truck and walk home. Then, one weekend have a friend drop you off about 45 or 50 miles from home and take that bag and walk with it. You'll see just how much you really need that extra knife and the weight that comes with it.

    Leave home as a last resort, not a first. Make your home one giant ass BOB and you'll never want to leave it. If flash rioting happens in your neighborhood, it'll dissipate just as quickly when a few bodies fall.

    That's my plan and I'm sticking to it.
     
  12. Oct 10, 2012 at 4:23 PM
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    Well thought out.
     
  13. Oct 10, 2012 at 11:54 PM
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    Ok, so I just got my new Maratac EOD bag in, could use some ideas of things to keep in it.

    Basically I am going to take it with me in and out of my truck everyday. So far the list of items are as follows.

    9mm and 3 spare mags
    1 box of 50 rounds
    550 paracord (50 ft)
    small 1st aid kit
    Folding knife
    tactical flashlight
    space blanket
    few granola bars
    small packet of wipes

    Any other essential items you can think of would help.

    I live in San Fran but work on the peninsula, my guns and bug out bag are at my brothers in Los Gatos (54 mi away from my place). So I have a max range of 54 miles to go if I need to go on foot. I wear hiking boots and rugged clothes every day for work so clothes arent a problem for that duration of a hike. Weight and speed are. I also have a large list of good gear already in my truck ICOS to select from. I just need it to get me to my brothers.

    I basically never want to open the bag, it comes in the door with me and waits by it until I leave again.

    Here is a link to the bag to give you an idea of size.
    http://www.countycomm.com/minebag.html

    I hope this isnt thread jacking either. Someone brought up the bag earlier in the thread and I couldnt help myself. Ordered it that day.
     
  14. Oct 11, 2012 at 12:15 AM
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    i always love reading in this thread, especially now that the new season of The Walking Dead is on!!
     
  15. Oct 11, 2012 at 12:28 AM
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    Can't ever be to careful.
     
  16. Oct 11, 2012 at 3:03 AM
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    I guess the shoulder strap could do in a pinch but I always get backpacks. Besides the fact of spreading the weight out and carrying it with the proper parts of your body, I'm very mindful of the fact that you're more then likely going to need your hands and arms. Whether it be to move shit out of your way, defend yourself or to take down a target on the move.
     
  17. Oct 11, 2012 at 3:11 AM
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    That bag is fine in size but those purse style bags are a pain in the ass to walk with. They'll either rub your shoulder wrong or it'll constantly be slapping into the side of your hip. It's a great bag to keep in the truck with a small amount of gear but moving long distances it'll get annoying, I know.

    I recommend 3 day assault packs. I personally like tactical tailor, www.tacticaltailor.com they are expensive but you get what you pay for. They are rugged, have stood up to being drug all over Afghanistan and Iraq and come with a VS17 panel sewn in. They are made in the USA and come with a lifetime warranty which won't be worth much if the world craps out but if you're camping and your zipper breaks they'll fix it or replace it for free. I've got almost 8 years on their Malice pack and 2 on their assault packs and don't have any problems. I have the Extended Range Operator Pack, 3 day pack and I just purchased my son the Urban Operator pack for school and hiking.

    Whichever pack you choose, make sure it can be carried comfortably on your back.

    I know alot of guys like the man purse type and I have one of those too. The one I carry at work is the Maxpedition Last Resort Tactical Attache. It's a nice pack but is really meant as a quick bag for when your vehicle gets blown up and you need to move to a hard structure and hold down for just a little bit while your reaction team gets to you. Again running/walking with that bag with any amount of weight gets annoying fast.

    FWIW, I've spent the last 10 years in all the shit countries in the world. Half of that in Special Forces, the other half as a private military contractor. All of our trucks have BOB in them and at one time or another I've had to grab a bag and move for awhile. Whether it was for a few hours in a city or a week in the Afghanistan mountains hunting. So speaking from experience, it sucks. It sucks even more when at the end of 7 or 8 days living out of the one bag you learn that you had too much of stuff that looked cool and was basically worthless and not enough of the stuff that you really needed.

    It's those situations that very few get to actually experience. It's one thing to take your gear camping in the mountains knowing you parked your truck or hiked in and are 40 or 50 miles from civilization and "test" it. It's quite another to be dropped in by helo and have to move to a rally point knowing that there are other people out there hunting you as well and the only things that'll keep you alive are your gear, your PT and the men to the left and right of you. Any man that has served in an infantry unit over there, be it Marine or Army knows this and can relate.
     
  18. Oct 11, 2012 at 3:24 AM
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    I understand that, I spent 5 years bouncing the jungles of south america. Everything from webgear to full 5 day packs.
    The hardest part is, I want a mini bag to get me from my house to my brothers, thats it. Once there I have a full on assault kit, AR to boots with more ammo than possible to carry. I live in SF so I dont want to look like a combat warrior walking to my truck every day and I cant leave my weapon in my truck. The taco is loaded with gear that is locked or hidden but the weapon never stays in there full time. So in an emergency I want the little bag to be loaded.
     
  19. Oct 11, 2012 at 3:31 AM
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    I understand that, I spent 5 years bouncing the jungles of south america. Everything from webgear to full 5 day packs.
    The hardest part is, I want a mini bag to get me from my house to my brothers, thats it. Once there I have a full on assault kit, AR to boots with more ammo than possible to carry. I live in SF so I dont want to look like a combat warrior walking to my truck every day and I cant leave my weapon in my truck. The taco is loaded with gear that is locked or hidden but the weapon never stays in there full time. So in an emergency I want the little bag to be loaded.

    Also to add to the list:
    lighter
    chapstick
    sharpie (for notes to whom ever)
    EPI pen
     
  20. Oct 11, 2012 at 4:36 AM
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