Lance Armstrong...

Just read Levi Leipheimer has been booted from his team due to his testimony against Lance, and admitted he doped. Levi was the top US cyclists.

Despite what anyone's opinion of Lance was, this was just a massive wastes of taxpayer money. There was no need for the fed to get involved and turn this into a witch hunt. THe sport conducted their own tests. Lance was never positive, and now his foundation will take a huge hit.

 

Nike will still support LiveSTRONG and Lance remains on the Board

Nike has cut personal ties with Lance, but what is interesting is Nike still has contract with Kobe Bryant (who has rape allegations), Michael Vick who spent a year in prison, and Tiger Woods who's integrity is in the dumps

 

the guys a druggie, and that whole livestrong thing has probably lined his pockets real well

 

He's a pretty damned healthy druggie...might have to start myself.

 

Yeah there's an article in Outside magazine about Lance and his foundation. There are 2 Livestrong entities. .com and .org. They are easily confused. I believe the apparal that Nike uses all the proceeds go to Lance. The shirts and shorts are then used to advertise for the foundation at .org. There are 2 different pots of money associated with Livestrong.

Here's the article.

http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoo...strong/Its-Not-About-the-Lab-Rats.html?page=1

There are numerous stories about Lance being an asshole, and taking down anyone that crosses him. I think he's the MJ of cycling, a waste of tax payer money to go after him, and hes done great for Cancer AWARNESS.

 

Pointless to fuck with him at this point. So who's gonna be awarded those 7 TDF's? Some dude back in 69th or 100th place that was the first one proven to not be involved in this widespread doping? How much research dollars will that take? Might as well act like none of races even ever happened for the last 20 yrs and start over with all the "clean" athletes out there next year. People could do this shit with every sport in retrospect and wipe out half of all sports stats at very least going back however long they wanna look.

 

Last I read they were gonna vacate the wins

Cycling definitely has a dirty history and it is slowly cleaning up

 

All sponsers of Lance have dropped him now, only Oakley remains and will most likely leave soon.

http://www.outsideonline.com/blog/o...th-armstrong-other-companies-follow-suit.html

SportsIllustrated had a pretty damaging article detailing his drug use and personality during his career.

 

Write up and take down all of them. Singling out one person when the whole sport was/is doing it is nothing more than jacking off on stage with a microscope and tweezers. If it's that widespread then just shut the whole thing down then because we're right back at it being a complete pointless waste of time.

 

I read somewhere that all but 1 person that Lance shared teh podium with in all of his voctories, stage and tour have been connected at one point to PED's.

 

Singling out Lance was and is a necessary part off the process of cleaning up the sport. His long history of threatening, and then attacking, those who dared speak the truth during and after his period of TDF dominance sets his role in cycling apart. Lance cheated, and harassed teammates to do the same, while threatening their jobs if they didn't go along with it. He perpetuated cheating, with spectacular results, like no one before or since his heyday. He then exploited his notoriety for TREMENDOUS personal gain through sponsorships and appearance fees like no other cyclist of his time. All during this, he maintained a viciously ferocious legal team that quashed the truth anytime it bubbled up. Through this legal team, he destroyed reputations and careers. Frankie and Betsy Andreu can attest to that. And then there's SCA Promotions, who was defrauded of millions of dollars paid to Tailwind Sports, and subsequently to Lance, because of his 7 TDF wins.

And through all of that, he lied and lied and lied through his teeth about having been clean. All those other guys? They're coming clean now. And for the few that did race clean during that time? You think after living through all that, and not getting the results they might otherwise have gotten, they'd be OK with giving Lance a pass now just because it's in the past? No way.

He was the face of cycling in America for over 10 years, all based on an elaborate orchestration of cheating. Because of that, yeah, singling him out is absolutely appropriate, especially for the sake of the sport. It's entirely appropriate to make an example of him.

 

Like MLB...

 

So your implying that he and "his" team were the only ones involved in this shit? Think again. And members of his team made a career choice to not walk away from going along with the doping. Why didn't they walk or get fired and then tell why they did what they did back then? Lance didn't force it on them. That doesn't fly. I'm not defending or saying doping to win is or was OK. I am saying that LA and his team aren't the only ones involved and he did not have absolute power over his team mates where they couldn't have stepped away from supporting the farce if they were that concerned about it. So again, fuck with all who participated in it or fuck with none of them and start "clean" going forward.

 

It was his team, as in he owned the USPS/Discovery Channel cycling teams. Basically, he said do it or you have no job here. Pro cyclists don't make a huge salary and that team was very high profile, so yes, it benefitted riders to stay.

Almost every lead rider who left the team was eventually busted for doping. The only one who was smart/lucky enough to not get caught was Levi Leipheimer.

 

Christian Vande Velde, David Zabriske and George Hincape never tested postive, yet they doped too...

That era in pro cycling was extremely dirty, if you didn't dope you couldn't win

 

I was surprised that he admitted it. A lot of people looked up to him as a hero and inspiration. It is sad that he had to use drugs in order to be a good athlete and to stay competitive! I used to think he was a neat guy. I guess this is why I don't put much faith in the human behavior much anymore.

 

I don't think he has admitted it, has he?

 

None of them were lead riders, either. Vande Velde didn't become a gc contender until he started riding for Slipstream. None of those guys left USPS saying they were going elsewhere to be a gc rider. All who did, with the exception of Levi, were eventually busted. Of course, Levi was never super competitive after he left.

I'm not saying those guys didn't dope. It's in the affadavits. I'm just pointing out that either USPS's system was that well concealed or someone on the team was blowing the whistle on riders after they left. Remember, it was all riders who were strong gc contenders like Heras, Hamilton, and Landis. Riders who were capable of beating Lance.

 

Levi was never busted... He came out in his testimony to the USADA

USPS wasn't the only team doping

 

I may not like Kobe, but his accuser after stating on a sworn deposition that the only person she had sex with was KB, was found to have semen of three different individuals. I don't know if she was raped or not, but her credibility was ZERO.


MV paid his debt to society. He was convicted, and did his time. As far as I'm concerned, time to move on.

TW had a sex addicition that cost his marriage. Nothing he did was illegal. I'd love to have the former Mrs. Woods phone number...


LA is a cheat, a lier and con.