Lance Armstrong...

OK. I'm not talking about other teams. It's obvious every team does it, but it's also pretty clear that USPS had a much more effective system than everyone else, save one or two teams.

And no, Levi was never caught. Reread my post...

 

if Armstrong didn't dope he doesn't win, doesn't have the name recognition he has/had, and doesn't get the big endorsement deals. basically, he would not be the person he is nor lived the life he has without PED's. yes the sport was/is extremely dirty, but cheating better than everyone else is not something to be proud of.

 

What I was trying to get across was that Lance's drive to be the best drove him to create a system that was so advanced and to guarantee victory.

Personally I hope the UCI removes anybody that is still around from that era on their board as they are the ones responsible for allowing it to happen

 

Levi wasn't caught, so what, some people are guilty by association according and some aren't? Just oust the ones doping that won anything or got caught that were or are using right? Wrong, anyone and everyone who was or is using is out or don't bother. What, take titles away from someone who was and give it to someone else who was but just happened to be on a team that wasn't or isn't being scrutinized? Nah, doesn't make sense.

THIS !







and.........Funny how those damn hippy surfers always used to get the automatic doper label, now it's cyclists or any "pro" athletes. except golfers of course.

 

According to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 41% of Americans cop to smoking the reefer...NORML has it even higher.

There is a good chance any person you encounter in the US has partook of illegal drugs. The thing that pisses me off about athletes is when they refuse to admit it.

 

smoking weed isn't going to boost your career in athletics.
Armstrong has already sworn under oath that he has not taken PED's and would face jail time if he did admit to it.
he would also be sued by his past and present endorsers.

 

So when is Congress gonna get involved in wasting taxpayer money pulling all these bikers into hearings to see if they lie like they did to baseball playas? It's just not legit unless there is a congressional hearing, lol.

 

I beg to differ.

http://www.ifoce.com/

 

there's nothing athletic about gluttony.

 

Ill say this, does anyone know who won those 7 consecutive Tour de France's? Oh yeah, it was LANCE ARMSTRONG.....No matter what people say and do, I 99% of the world will know who won them. By the way, that is pretty much what he said in the BICYCLING Magizine and I have to agree with him 100%. Get off his nuts (nut).

 

oh, not to mention all the other races he has won........those are the SEVEN that everyone knows, he is and will always be the Face of Cycling in my eyes

 

I prefer Eric Heiden. Just saying.

 

nope.

http://www.tsn.ca/cycling/story/?id=407891

 

Nobody won because nobody was clean and just because they didn't fail a test only means they didn't get caught, not that they were clean. Nobody that was actually clean can even prove that at this point so they should just drop it and go forward with stricter shit instead of this fucking jerkoff hindsight circus.

 

"I know who won those seven Tours, my teammates know who won those seven Tours, and everyone I competed against knows who won those seven Tours," Armstrong said then. "The toughest event in the world where the strongest man wins. Nobody can ever change that." Lance Armstrong

 

The first sentence of my previous post was SARCASM.......kinda


The 2nd sentence of my previous post was NOT SARCASM.

 

oh I know who "won" 7 TDF's, a guy who knew he wasn't good enough to win legitimately and made a career off using PED's.

 

Look at Arnold Schwarnegger, Hulk Hogan, Stallone, B Bonds, Mcguire, Canseco, Shilling, Clemens, Just about every NFL player ect, tons of Olympic Athletes ect....Once you get to that elite level in a profession, the margin of victory and defete is so small that if you are not doing everything possible to gain that edge, you are yesterdays news. Most people at that level are ultra type A personalities and will do everything to stay at the top. You would never hear of any of those guys if they didn't cheat. Now they are household names.

 

you say that like it justifies what they did, I disagree.