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Long Travel BS Thread

Discussion in 'Long Travel Suspension' started by amaes, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. Oct 30, 2012 at 10:29 PM
    rcfreak201

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    Is it even worth getting smoothies for the front or just stick to bypasses? Just curious
     
  2. Oct 30, 2012 at 11:44 PM
    noSKills858

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    More shock can help, but in that case not quite as much as a bypass of course. You can do a lot with a smoothie in there doing secondary work. A bypass helps the most because of it's fine tuning, especially when you know what you are doing.
     
  3. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:06 AM
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  4. Oct 31, 2012 at 12:59 AM
    tacokid09

    tacokid09 it's about the off-road miles

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    could you lead me to a place to start? i need to learn this stuff fast.
     
  5. Oct 31, 2012 at 1:38 AM
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    that definitely goes for smoothies as well,

    I thought about using the coilover strictly as a coil carrier and having the smoothie do all the work but thats old tech... why not have two shocks split the work? Do they even split the work 50/50? damn shock theorys..hahaha something to think about on those boring nights
     
  6. Oct 31, 2012 at 7:32 AM
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    Basically tune ability and what was said above fine tuning for the front end but a well valved smoothie would do just as good, just might as well get a bypass though
     
  7. Oct 31, 2012 at 8:13 AM
    Hiatt1991

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    The 4wds used to come with a tortion setup but he converted it to king coilovers as you can see. A lot of guys still run tortion setups with just front bypasses. You can still pull decent travel but I say a coilover will def be a big upgrade.
     
  8. Oct 31, 2012 at 8:14 AM
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    Start with the coilover bible.

    The better question is it even worth getting secondaries?
    The vast majority of people never run their trucks long enough and hard enough to necessitate a secondary shock at all. Revalving you coil carriers a few times till it's right will work every bit as good.
     
  9. Oct 31, 2012 at 8:35 AM
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  10. Oct 31, 2012 at 8:56 AM
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  11. Oct 31, 2012 at 9:00 AM
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    Pretty far drive huh?
     
  12. Oct 31, 2012 at 9:23 AM
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  13. Oct 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM
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    I defenitly noticed a big diffrence with throwing bypasses on not ride quality but could smash the front end and not even bottom out the bumps if anything I just feel more comfortable not having to check up on g-outs etc.. I would say its well worth getting bypasses for the front
     
  14. Oct 31, 2012 at 9:37 AM
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    Then that means your coilovers were not valved they way they should have been. The only thing a secondary gives you is MORE valving and MORE oil. It's not magic.
     
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    more dampening.. I think that's what he was getting at.
    If you have the resources, why not both?
     
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    I politely disagree. The additional dampening over large hits alone is worth the secondary not to mention the ability to tune your front end to the terrain/conditions on the fly with a bypass.

    even a smooth body up front will ride better than just a coilover. Is a bypass a better option, of course but almost always the rule of 2>1 applies except in extremely rare cases and if your ballin on a budget a smooth body is a viable option. Think of it this way, would you rather run a 2.0 or a 2.5" coilover? Why?
     
  18. Oct 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM
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    If you concern is for dampening for just big hits, bumps would be way more economical than bypasses. Bypasses absolutely have the added benefit of tuneability on the fly. In the end, its all valving valving valving.

    I'm not arguing that it's better to have just a coilover. Yes is obviously more to your advantage to have the flexibility of a bypass secondary in addition to the coil carrier with the added benefit of more shock oil which means less heat and in turn less rebuilds. My point stands that the vast majority of people don't need the advantage of a secondary, particularly if they took the time to valve their coilover to their truck and driving style.

    In the end it boils down to driving style...and $$$$.
     
  19. Oct 31, 2012 at 10:07 AM
    G scott04

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    a secondary would provide that extra dampening on a big hit all the way through the travel not just the last few inches right?
     
  20. Oct 31, 2012 at 10:09 AM
    jberry813

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    Yes...so would increasing your compression valve stack in your coilover.
     

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