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Enlighten me on something..

Discussion in 'Military' started by BrokenTusk, Aug 3, 2012.

  1. Nov 1, 2012 at 10:04 AM
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    if the military knocked out the drug trade to america their would be far less jobs and a lot more people out of work the dea would be heavily reduced same with all the police narcotics departments and would actually hurt our economy more. and thats why the drug trade is kind of regulated in a way. like if to many harm full drugs start getting in the high schools and to kids they are busted quickly. than people older people who use and have nothing to loose anyway.
     
  2. Nov 1, 2012 at 10:25 AM
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    The DEA busting people and putting them in jail, according the what was stated earlier that costs 17 million per person. You could open a factory and have people work with all the money you would be saving from getting rid of drugs and drug related crimes/criminals.

    Of course this will never happen so this whole conversation is dumb
     
  3. Nov 1, 2012 at 10:49 AM
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    If you want a serious answer it's racism and money that keep the drug war going. Plain and simple. It's not even political because both parties are at fault.

    For more info see here http://www.thehouseilivein.org/
     
  4. Nov 1, 2012 at 10:56 AM
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    4banger09, In America we do not use (or I should say, we are not legally allowed) to use Government funds (the 17 mil saved) to open State run factories and provide jobs to people. We are not communist, even if the current President think we are.
     
  5. Nov 1, 2012 at 10:58 AM
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    XXXX, What? Racism? What the hell are you saying? You think that racism is the reason we have a drug problem in America? Go back to smoking that stuff.

    Define Racism!
     
  6. Nov 1, 2012 at 11:03 AM
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    you should also look into how much money they seize. my dad was dea for 34 years and they seize and make money off their busts like all the cars boats planes they auction off
     
  7. Nov 1, 2012 at 11:06 AM
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    He's a Communist now ? I thought he was a Socialist ?
     
  8. Nov 1, 2012 at 11:16 AM
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    Yes. If you knew anything about the topic or have ever done any research on it you would not be asking me what I have already typed once. I myself wrote my thesis on this exact topic and went to college majoring in criminal justice. The college I attended was in fact the police academy.

    Should I repeat myself a third time for you?

    Maybe instead of being a ass you would look into the facts that are the drug war. Not sure your level of education or knowledge in the area of topic, but I suspect you need to look into the facts before spouting off what I consider total bullcrap.

    People like you are why we can not conduct a civil discussion on this forum. Tone it down and if you do not agree then provide some facts against my opinion. I already provided mine.
     
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    Could the government not provide tax breaks or energy deals to help the people who can run factories and produce jobs. our power plants are government run. There are better ways to spend 17 million dollars then to put someone in jail :D
     
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    True but I don't believe that amount is equal to 17 million x amount of people in American prisons. But not needing jails is something that will never happen.
     
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    The sentencing guidelines for possession of crack are 100 times more stringent then the same exact drug in powder form. Up until about 5 years ago it was 1,000 times more stringent.

    You tell me why these differing guidelines for the same exact drug exist?

    +1 if you can also tell me when and why they were decreased from 1,000% to 100%.

    Ill hold my breath and wait for answers that do not include racism as the #1 reason :popcorn:
     
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    People are act like a different president will change the world. Same shit, different pile.
     
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    I never said he was a communist, his principals are though. You were correct to call him a socialist. Socialism is an ideology not a form of government.
     
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    1. Crack is wack
     
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    What's wrong with communism? Have you ever tried it how do you know it won't work for 'merica
     
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    A dab of Socialism works wonders
     
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    America is a prime example of it working. We have many systems in use today that use it as a basis.
     
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    I'm curious what the "official" reason given for that change was.
     
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    :notsureifserious:
     
  20. Nov 1, 2012 at 12:02 PM
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    Wow Skip you really schooled me.

    First, I have been nothing but civil here. Have I called anyone a name? Nope, I have backed every argument I have made with "Credible" sources and refuted un-credible ones. So I guess that makes me an ass (your words, not mine).

    Ok, so you state that you have made your argument here and cited your sources. Where? I have just reviewed the entire thread an no where do you provide any data to back your claim. you simply link a movie promo and expect that it will be taken at face value. I guess you used that as the source for your thesis and I do not know any "credible" College in the world that would accept a movie as a source for a thesis.

    Majoring in criminal justice? Dear God! I have worked in the Criminal Justice system for over 15 years and I have a Masters in both Criminal Justice and Micro-Biology/ Virology. What level of degree did you pursue to use a movie as a source? Oh, I see that you stated that you went to a police academy. Perhaps you misspoke and meant that you drove past a police academy. I attended the # 2 ranked police academy in the country. BTW, you do not earn degrees from academies, you earn them from Universities and Colleges.

    Further, you sir are completely ignorant to the basic definition of racism. Blaming the drug problems in America on racism you sound like Russell Simmons, Dylan Ratigan, or that hack Eugene Jarecki. Heck why don't you say that Global Warming is real to tie it all together.

    Let me help you out:
    Definition of RACISM

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    : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race

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    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

    Now explain to me how the hell the belief that one race is superior over another is the root of the drug problems in America?

    You come at me you better have some facts and be able back your arguments, or better yet drive past that police academy and ask one of the officers to explain it to you.

    Bottom line, you do not know me or anything about me so don't toss out accusations like you do.

    Man, I thought this was the Military Thread and not the bleeding heart liberal thread!

    RLTW
     

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