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Engine oil?

Discussion in '4 Cylinder' started by 4X4SUPERWHITE, Nov 5, 2012.

  1. Nov 5, 2012 at 5:20 AM
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    4X4SUPERWHITE

    4X4SUPERWHITE [OP] Active Member

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    Here is my question, Owner maintenance guide says change engine oil every 5K or 6 months. Dealer say every 10k with tacoma's that use 0w20 synthetic oil :confused: I own a 2011 with 2.7L. Thanks
     
  2. Nov 5, 2012 at 5:55 AM
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    You can go 10K safely on a high quality synthetic, like Toyota's 0w-20, Mobil 1 AFE 0w-20, Quaker State UD 0w-20 ect. If it were mine I would do several 5K runs then start the 10K regimen after break in metals have been removed. My 2008 is now right at 60K, i.e. out of warranty. I will now run 10K or so on synthetic or 5K on conventional. How many miles on your truck.
     
  3. Nov 5, 2012 at 7:42 AM
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    Don't listen to the dealer. The manufacturer says every 5K with 0w-20 synthetic and oil changes don't cost much. Mine will be changed every 5K (or less) for the life of the truck.
     
  4. Nov 5, 2012 at 9:01 AM
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    Toyota has backspeced Tacoma's 2.7L from 2009 forward, to use 0w-20 synthetic at 10K intervals. Many UOA's at BITOG show the oils I mentioned, perform well and have additive left at 10K. Yes I know oil is cheap compared to the price of a engine, but at some point we need to stop wasting our resources IMO.
     
  5. Nov 5, 2012 at 1:09 PM
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    15k on the truck. Has been maintain by dealer since late 2010. It came with the 2 year or 24K maintenance deal. The oil still looks like new.Looks like I can wait until 20K to change it. I'm going to use only synthetic, until the frame rot out like the last one.
     
  6. Nov 5, 2012 at 1:18 PM
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    The 2.7L is not approved for 10k oil changes for Toyota. There is a bulletin floating around from Toyota that specifically excludes the 2.7L from the new 10k intervals. You can probably find it by googling "Toyota Oil Change Frequency".

    I am out of warranty, so I am doing 7500mile oil changes with full synthetic. I would need to do a couple of oil analysis done before I would feel comfortable with more than that. I just split the difference between 5k and 10k.
     
  7. Nov 5, 2012 at 1:27 PM
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    I'll keep checking the oil once a month to see how it is.
     
  8. Nov 5, 2012 at 4:58 PM
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    SVHANC is stand corrected. It seems that they did change their mind. At one point I saw it recommended.

    Here is a link to a UOA I had done on Mobil 1 AFE 0w-20 run 5K. I only ran it 5K because I was still in warranty.
    http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forum...owflat&Main=182460&Number=2738206#Post2738206
     
  9. Nov 12, 2012 at 4:47 PM
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    I switched to Amsoil 5W30 five years ago and am very glad I did. I mainly went to synthetic due to start up rpm (2200) after switching to syn-oil, the rpm dropped to 18-1900. It's common knowledge that 'startup is where the most wear occurs on the engine' and I think piss poor maintenance is 2nd cause of excessive wear. I went w/Amsoil because (1) I'd knew of it 35 years ago-a customer used it in air cooled cast iron engines and it really extended the life of his motors and (2) It was on sale when I was ready to tru it. Turns out that Amsoil, Royal Purple and another popular brand who's name escapes me-are "Ester Based Oils". There may be others, but since I'm happy with what I'm using-I haven't looked farther into it. I'd stay away from 'blends'- Why? There are no standards for the ratio or quality of the synthetic that comes in each container so it may be a teaspoon or up to a tablespoon? I'ts easier to make your own blend, say one quart of quality synthetic with four quarts of conventional (or what's know as dino oil-I believe short for dinosour), that way you know your getting a true 20% blend. You can use 2 qts out of five for a 40% blend. I also use a high quality oil filter and have gotten my used synthetic oil anaylzed twice (two different oil changes) to check for contaminants-chemical or metals. W/O the analysis, you have no idea if there is value in using synthetic, and since you've gone this far-the $20-25 for it is worth it. I also noticed the dino oil getting darker in 1,000 miles. I run the synthetic for 15,000 miles-changing fot a new oil filter at 7,500 miles. There is a guy who bought and opened up different brands of filters and made observations of his findings (with pictures) on the web, I don't remember the site but if you made it this far-you should be able to find it. Remember to check and replace you air filter as needed-not by mileage. Check it with the 'trouble light or hold it up to the sun-remember these filters are not what you want to "get every inch used"-Buy a spare when you find a good price. Good Luck.
     

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