Death with dignity

Who gives the right to choose to the vegetable mentioned earlier? He can only moan.

There are family choices to remove life support, family choices to have DNR orders, etc.

If that's what you wanna call this, fine; I still call assisting suicide manslaughter. Of course I live in a state where statute considers it manslaughter as well.

 

As do I

 

Death with dignity should be a right. What I, in consultation with my family and medical caregivers decide to do in the event of terminal illness or chronic pain and suffering is my choice. Nobody elses. That we even argue about this stuff in the 21st century blows my mind.

 

Well said

 

Chronic pain is not something that qualifies for the choice. Pain is not a terminal illness. This what gets lost. Its not pain and suffering. Its a terminal illness which there is no cure.

 

Death with dignity put as you put as a choice with consultation of family and medical providers in the event of terminal illness is the right of the family.

This in mind is different then assisted suicide.

 

How do you see them as different ?

 

The point is this - You individual experience of life is yours, and yours alone. You live this life in your body, and see it through your eyes. No one else does. No one can live the life of another, and therefore no one has the right to tell another what their experience of life should be. You don't get to experience my life. So who are you to tell me what level of pain is too much for ME? By all means make that call for yourself. But it is not your right to make that call for me.

 

Consultation with family and medical staff about things such as removing life support, or putting in a DNR if the person stops breathing, I agree with those things.

Prescribing medicine to kill someone, regardless of the choice, does NOT seem right.

If you wanna die, you decide, and you do it. If you fuck up and become a vegetable on life support, you family should have a say in if they want you off life support. Not if they want the doc to give a lethal dose of whatever.

I don't agree with euthanizing old people or terminally ill people.

 

This is kind of my point. If you can pass the sound mind and body portion, then you ought to be able to get the job done on your own, without the doctors getting involved. I don't believe doctors should be getting involved with this and I can just see the lawsuits that could come out of this from either the family members of someone who went through with this or for a doctor refusing to prescribe this kind of medication. If you want to check out, have at it but I don't believe that it's the responsibility of the doctors to help you out.

 

My wife and I agree 100% but we voted it down based on some of the regulations that did and didnt come with it. They need to go back and rework it alittle. To me it is the same as Hospice when the nurse sets up the Morphine and explains how to use it and then lets you od except you didnt have to go thru all the pain and suffering to get there

 

Pretty much sums it up.

 

Hardest thing in the world is to let go of a loved one. second hardest thing is to watch them suffer needlessly. Who is selfish now?

 

Even if that is what they desire ?

Is it more " fair " or " just " to let them suffer rather than assist in ending their suffering ?

 

We're not talking healthy 20 or 30 something nut jobs. We're talking about SICK people who are going to die soon anyway, but are usually in pain... I watched my dad die a PAINFUL death from cancer. He WAS NOT going to get better. Or those folks with horrible diseases that only cause pain and suffering for the person.

 

I'm sorry, but if you are against this I suspect you have not watched a friend or loved one fade away for years in a nursing home. I have.

 

If that's what they desire then I think they should have at it. I still do not think it's right to put the doctors in the mix. It has nothing to do with fair and just, but I think doctors should stay away from this whole issue. If you want out, and you're terminally ill, you can't honestly tell me there aren't enough things out there that will end your life just as 'humanely' as this. All this question would do is make it so doctors can prescribe you something to get the job done. To me, this isn't about whether or not people should be able to off themselves, suicide is not illegal, never has been, but to bring someone else in to 'help' you I think is wrong.

 

With all due respect , if one is terminally ill in a hospital bed , are you suggesting having the family or someone else smuggle in the means of suicide makes any sense ?

 

No, I haven't thought this whole thing through apparently. The case where the person is hospitalized, can't leave and will live out their days in that bed in pain is where I'm torn. I still feel the doctors should stay out of that area, but at what point is that line of 'treatment' the best thing for the patient.

 

Opinion...
Generally speaking: Those with a secular point of view will be for it.

Those with a faith based perspective will oppose.

Understanding...
Could be as easy or difficult it is to interperate anothers opinion.