Slodgetto's Green Dragon 4x4 Conversion Build

Yup. If you have access to the tools, the time to learn and do it, then I say it's definately worth it! It is kind of hard if you've never done it before, but it's mostly time consuming to get it right. I'd be easy if we didn't have to worry about preloads, patterns, and backlash specifications.

Do you want to do the front and rear? Our front clamshell differentials are much harder to re-gear than our rears... But it can be done.

That reminds me, that I still need to compile all my pictures and measurements and stuff for when I did my front diff.... I'll hopefully post those up tonight, and you can read that as well.

Here's a list of tools.... Some are needed, some are helpful:
http://www.gearinstalls.com/gearinstalltools.htm

My advice is to just read as much as you can about it. Here is a good place to start: http://gearinstalls.com/ I have read the Tacoma and 96-02 4runner write-ups on there many many times! I would spend hours on that site, and it payed off when I actually re-geared.

I'll post up more info for you tonight, since my lunch break just ended... haha

 

ah dude i'll be on the 37" on IFS boat with you too. i'll be LT eventually so i can use tundra CVs which solves that issue, but there has to be a way to stop the spiders from breaking if that becomes a common issue. i haven't been able to personally watch Colin(got cope) wheel because at SETO we all usually branch off but i hear he's pretty rough on his rig. one of the 2nd gens i wheel with (nwitaco) is on ~38 and i've seen him snap his Allpro LT CV but never his spiders and i know he wheels his junk pretty rough, though given he is a 2nd gen.

oh and like every other bobbed bed 1st gen, it seems we have the same bumper(37" pictured below)

 

Sup Jess!

Mark broke the shaft because of other reasons, he's on 37's btw too And the 2nd gen has a bigger front end

And you're joining the 37" tire club

 

yeah i know, he's had issues with that one side. i figured theirs was bigger.
Eric, i'm Cody btw(was riding down there with Nick).. Jess was my school name everyone knew me as

and as soon as i buy wheels, i'll have the 37"s on. yesssss!

 

haha yup, I've liked that bumper style since I saw it year ago... Simple, high-clearence, strong, and pretty easy to fab for a n00b like myself.

And LT on 37s will be insane! Can't wait to see it! But yeah, 2nd gen front ends are stonger (8" ring gear opposed to out 7.5", and stronger axles) and with those Tundra axles, your clamshell is going to hate you. Is it possible to run some kind of manual hubs with the LT kit you're getting? That would come in handy a lot...

 

I want manual hubs. I don't see why they wouldn't work with any LT kit..

Add that mod to my list... sigh..

 

not sure but like stated above idk why not. i wonder if anyone's taken the 8" and swapped it in ours. hmm. OFF TO GOOGLE!

 

Interesting idea..

I'm sure you can with some good ole fabrication. I'm sure it would be a tight fit and require a custom oil pan..still though..

 

still if that would help us all to stop snapping things as much it may be worth? google isn't showing any results. i'm surprised actually that no one has tried it.

 

Probably not worth the effort. 2nd gens still pop cv's just not quite as often as 1st gens. Which reminds me, I need to get me some spare cv's by May for Moab. Don't want to pull a Silas but be without a spare now that I have a front locker...

 

DO IT!

Yeah... You don't think he could squeze an 8" with the current oil oan? I think it's possible.... It may have to hang just a tad lower.

But they are also heavier. I think it would be worth it if it didn't take too much work to get it to fit.

 

hmm. may be worth looking into if i start snapping and stripping stuffs.

 

It's hard to say without having looked at the 1st gen diff mounts, but I would imagine it would probably be just as easy to SAS unless you had some reason to prefer IFS to SAS.

 

Well for us future LT guys it'll be worthit Brady

What we need really is just a side by side comparison...

I still think you have to make a custom oil pan to make it fit but it would be a better option then dropping the diff lower. I don't want to take away clearance.

 

Well go check out your dads. haha

If the cv's are a larger diameter than yours all the way around, then it could mean you would have to make a 2nd gen LT kit work on a 1st or find a way to make 2nd gen cv fit in the 1st gen LT spindles or fit a 2nd gen LT spindle on a 1st gen Lt kit.

Oh and 2nd gens have a fully electronic ADD, aren't the first gens vacuum operated? Unless the 1st gen ADD can be used on a 2nd gen diff you make have a bit of a wiring project ahead of you as well. Well unless you can get hubs to work on the 2nd gen cvs.

I don't know all the specific sizes of all these parts so I am just throwing possible issues in as I think of them. haha

 

Well all be... Sup... Cody

 

^this. maybe sometime next year i'll see if i can get ahold of one and start measuring.

haha nice.

 

IFS diff swap would be way less invloved than a SAS.

1st gen ADD diffs have vacuum and electronic actuators. I bet there'd be a fairly simple way to wire up a 2nd gen actuator to 1st gen shifter.

Orrr... If the first gen has a j-shift case, I just about bet you could lock the actuator in the lock position with a hose clamp or something and forget the wiring. More reliable that way anyway... but would require manual hubs to relieve stress on the drivetrain and CV boots...

Would definately take some custom/thoughtwork on getting the right LT kit

 

Well what axles do 2nd gen guys run on LT??

I wonder if you can make a 1st gen tundra axle fit..I think we were talking about that in Jason's build thread. I think you can with am adaptor thing for the splines.

In which case you could make 1st gen manual hubs work..and a 1st gen LT kit..

Or you could just swap the inner ends on a tundra axle with a 2nd gen axles..

1st gen has 27 splines and 2nd gens have 30..

 

Yep... Would also have to look at the differnece in width (axle seal to axle seal) between the the 7.5" and 8", andf see if it would be significant enough to affect cv travel. Don't want to have the axle be slightly too long and hit the back of the cv cup coming off a jump!