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Long term catalytic converter maintenance, THE RIGHT WAY

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by 12TRDTacoma, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. Nov 18, 2012 at 10:53 PM
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    If you believe any of that, that is definitely the WRONG way! Lol you might as well do your laundry while you "clean" that cat. Haha :D

    Just figured I'd post up some funny stupidity.
     
  2. Nov 18, 2012 at 10:59 PM
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    that seems so sketchy and bad for your fuel injectors/timing
     
  3. Nov 18, 2012 at 11:10 PM
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    That's such a good way kill your entire fuel system... Haha Laquer Thinner?? Really now?? Lol that's even worse then that old tale of putting acetone in your gas tank.
     
  4. Nov 18, 2012 at 11:25 PM
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    Yeah sounds rough on the fuel system.
     
  5. Nov 18, 2012 at 11:31 PM
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    Look how generously he pours it in. He just dumps it in like it's nothing though. :p
     
  6. Nov 19, 2012 at 5:54 AM
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    This man does NOT need to be working on cars. Vehicles these days are so sensitive to fuels and such, that any attempt to clean the catalytic like he is showing will likely cause premature failure of other parts.
     
  7. Nov 19, 2012 at 6:32 AM
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    After a little research it seems as though there is noting wrong with using laquer thinner in your car in small amounts. As far as cleaning the cat i dont know. All fuel injector cleaners are proly just as bad and most dont work because there too weak.
     
  8. Nov 19, 2012 at 9:11 AM
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    OH yeah! I highly agree, his entire video (although in his mind it is not) is a joke and should be treated as such. The converter will not cause a check engine light after losing 5% efficiency, more like after losing 60% efficiency. If that was so the case, aftermarket converters would be tripping on check engine lights right after the installation because right out of the gate they are about 60% efficient at best.

    It will not clean the cat, the fact of the matter is that if you are running at proper stochiometric AFR (14.7/1) the cat will be a happy little camper and last a very long time. I have seen stock cats last as long as 200k+ but like every other part it does wear out eventually and the piece has quite a job to do too so really once it's done it's done. Which is why it is CRITICAL that you get every check engine light especially the once which flicker as you drive diagnosed because if you don't you will be costing yourself some very very expensive repairs in the long run. Laquer thinner is not the magic potion which will fix emissions.
     
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    Scotty's mechanic videos are from an old school and 'good enough' of a fix perspective, and mostly assume the car has significant age to it (ie. 8 years or more) and therefore the driver wants to keep repair costs to an abolute minimum. He also generalizes most of the repair process in his videos. That said he still does a good job of showing an overview of a particular repair in about 3 minutes. Some of his fixes are a little out there though, and this one appears to be one of them.
     
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    A lot of over the counter fuel cleaners and carb sprays already contain acetone in them. Cleaning the throttle body butterfly is the only real place you need to use this on a modern vehicle. Gas already contains a high level of cleaners and solvents.

    If your cat is failing the chances you can unbolt the thing are slim to none anyway. If it's out then cleaning it that way really can't hurt much. Pouring the thinner in the plastic tank and fuel pump method.....is another story indeed.

    You get much better results giving it hell on the on-ramp anyway.
     
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    The only real way for the vehicle to run clean after the cat is giving up on it is to superheat it, by keeping the RPM high. A method which is highly discouraged and frowned upon (also cited upon for smog check certified individuals) by the BAR in the state of CA. The reason why is because yes it might pass if the cat has been superheated, however, on the road during normal operation it's going to be polluting more then allowed and will fail it's next inspection for the same conditions as well.
     
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    So what's in Techron ? That has been recommended by respected mechanics.
     
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    I have no idea but I have noticed that the fuel lasts longer and the car runs better with chevron and shell fuels vs. 76 arco etc. etc. they all get their fuel from the same supplier however it's what they do with their fuels after which is the difference between all the fuels. I know a lot of the cheaper brands do a mix of gas and ethanol. Where as shell and chevron put some additives in theirs which further improves their quality.
     
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    I don't know what Concord U R from but in NJ they put ethanol in the gas year round and more of it in the winter so your gas mileage will be even worse is the winter then the summer. I think somebody that sells corn took care of somebody and now we are stuck with it.
     
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    Yeah they do that in California as well. They tend to mix the ethanol for purpose of diluting the fuel, that way they get more fuel for less essentially.
     
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    That benefits them but we get lower mpg so it hurts us.
     
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    Exactly. They get more money for giving us less fuel. Bastards. Someone clearly didn't drop them on their heads as a baby.
     
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    When looking at ethanol based fuels, you have to look at everything. Yes, there is a loss in fuel economy, but the same sites that say you lose economy, will also admit that there is an increase in power when using ethanol based fuels. Also Ethanol based fuels produce less hydrocarbons and pollutants, as well as help keep your engine intake and exhaust system running cleaner. Personally I DO care about the air that my grandkids and great-grandkids will be breathing. But that is just me, and a matter of opinion there.
    Another advantage in ethanol fuels is that it is a renewable resource. Face it, oil is not exactly a rapid-renewing resource. By diluting the gasoline with ethanol, you decrease the amount of gasoline that needs to be produced. This increases how long the non-renewable oil supplies will last. I wonder if anyone here knows that Brazil is 100% ethanol based fuel. Their fuels are made from ethanol extracted from the sugar cane that they grow right there. They have almost zero dependence now on oil. (As far as fuel) I am not agreeing with the fuel companies keeping the fuel costs high, while the fuel economy is going down, but face it, we still pay a lot less for gasoline than most other countries. In Europe they pay close to $4.00 (Euro) for a LITRE of fuel. At 3.79 litres to a gallon, that would be equal to us paying $15.60 for a gallon of fuel. We have it pretty damn lucky actually.
     
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    Will ethanol make those bumps on you GF's chest pop out ? If so I agree with everything you say. Thank you so much as always.
     
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    This is the only reason I continue to listen to bamatoy! As far as ethanol is concerned, yes it burns cleaner and yes it will keep your engine cleaner and running cleaner. That however still comes at a loss of fuel economy, which is a HUGE concern nowadays. The transition from oil to natural renewable energy will not happen in our lifetime because of big time politics and lobbyists, which I for one think is utter bullshit and a half but hey who am I but a spec of sand on the beach.
     

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