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Clutch squeak Linear Spring swap (TW how to)

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Rucas, May 28, 2011.

  1. Jun 13, 2012 at 6:24 AM
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    rysully

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    I have the same issue on my truck and have been trying to figure out ways to fix it. But i think that this fix is just for the 3.4L engines not the 2.7L and 2.3L. The squeak is coming from your clutch under your truck. Someone told me to oil it but I was told not to get any oil up in there.
     
  2. Oct 4, 2012 at 5:02 PM
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    What year did they (Toyota) stop using the squeaky torsion spring and bushings in favor of the tension spring similar to the brake pedal return spring? I have an '03 and there is no trace of the torsion spring or any of the bracketry to mount it. Only the tension spring that is similar to (but slightly smaller than) the brake spring...
     
  3. Oct 4, 2012 at 5:37 PM
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    Pretty sure the torsion spring is only on the 3.4s
     
  4. Dec 4, 2012 at 11:47 AM
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    Is the only point of the linear spring to make sure the pedal makes contact with the cruise control switch? Obviously it also takes up the free play at the top of the pedal stroke, but is it bad to not have that free play taken up? I ask because I would like to use a lighter spring but then there would be some wiggle room at the top of the stroke. Would this be bad? Or have the same effect as "riding the clutch?"
     
  5. Dec 4, 2012 at 1:06 PM
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    I mostly did it to get rid of the horrendous squeak the torsion spring made.

    Added bonuses = better contact with the CC switch and better clutch pedal feel (IMO).

    And FWIW, the brake pedal return spring I used (highly recommend this over the spring used in the OP - even the OP eventually made the switch to the brake return spring) has a little bit of wiggle room at the top.
     
  6. Dec 4, 2012 at 1:22 PM
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    To get rid of the most annoying noise ever created in the entire Universe.
     
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  7. Dec 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM
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    Yeah bassman is pretty much asking the same question as me just in a different way. If you don't have cruise control, all the spring does is make the pedal harder to push and hold the pedal up that last half inch. I understand the purpose of the mod because I have already done it. I'm just curious about the consequences of having a really light spring or none at all.
     
  8. Dec 18, 2012 at 4:21 PM
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    Part #?
     
  9. Dec 18, 2012 at 5:08 PM
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    Thanks. Dealership didn't have them in stock so placed 2 on order.
     
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    Pretty sure it's part # 9090507020 at the dealership. I used a chisel/long flathead, regular flathead and needle nose pliers to remove the old and put in the new in 10 minutes. Works great. Thanks to the OP and Madjik_man!
     
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  14. Feb 3, 2013 at 6:04 AM
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    Okay, I have read through all of this. I took my torsion spring out last year and replaced the center plastic bushing with the bronze piece per instructions found here on T/W. It worked really well for a while but now the bronze bushing has broken in half and I need to crawl back under there.

    The one thing the factory design torsion spring gives you as it pivots that the linear spring does not is to lessen the force needed to depress the pedal. I ran my clutch for a couple of years with no spring and with my stop and go driving to and from work I got tired of the leg pressure needed to clutch.

    So, with that said, I am unsure how to engineer the linear spring(s) to return the pedal to the CC switch and at the same time lessen the force to keep the clutch depressed. Because I still have the other half of the bronze bushing I may try rebuilding that demonic torsion spring one more time.
     
  15. Feb 3, 2013 at 6:50 AM
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    I honestly have notice no difference between the amount of force required to depress the torsion spring aided clutch pedal vs the linear spring.
     
  16. Feb 3, 2013 at 8:10 AM
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    same. I havent noticed a thing in the pressure difference.
     
  17. Feb 3, 2013 at 9:50 AM
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    I really didn't notice it when I removed the torsion spring but when I replaced it last year I noticed the required pressure was lighter. Honestly; if the absence of the torsion spring doesn't bother you then it really isn't needed.
     
  18. Feb 5, 2013 at 1:41 PM
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    Maybe it varies from truck to truck because my clutch is way easier to press with the torsion spring. The nice thing about the torsion spring is that it holds the pedal up for first half and helps depress the pedal for the second half. Except it squeaks and breaks the bushings and gets annoying.

    I was also determined to find a way to use a linear spring to help push down the pedal but I ended up just finding a spring that barely holds the pedal up to the cruise control switch. The pedal is as light as I'm gonna get it with a linear spring on it. And it doesn't squeak anymore which is good.
     
  19. Feb 7, 2013 at 10:20 PM
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  20. Feb 9, 2013 at 9:31 PM
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    This is a great mod. Thanks for sharing. I just did the mod today with a #70 spring from Ace Hardware on my 2004 Tacoma at 60,000 miles. Took about 20 minutes. Both plastic bushings on the torsion spring were shot. Not a good design or choice of materials on Toyota's part. The very loud cab squeak is gone and the clutch is definitely more firm on the return path but I like it much better. I still have a external squeak on the slave cylinder. Anyone know how to fix that?
     

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