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P0420

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by rs5, Dec 4, 2012.

  1. Dec 4, 2012 at 5:26 AM
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    rs5

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    I've had this code since I got the truck little over a month ago I believe that's why I'm only getting 15mpg anyways I've tried adding a gallon of lacquer thinner to half a tank of gas didn't work so the only other option I see if indeed the converters are dirty is taking them off and leaving them in soapy water but as I looked at the exhaust system setup it looks to me like the cats and the headers are one solid piece or is that a resonator and the latter piece is the cat as you see in the diagram below my initial thinking was that number 3 was the cat/header combination but now I believe number 6 is the actual standalone cat please correct if I'm wrong? Also if anybody know of a good aftermarket alternative to OEM cats I did want to my my truck louder :D for those that can shine in on the fuel economy issue here are a Few details, I changed sparkplugs about a week ago with OEM even after that I'm still getting the same 15 mpgs I have stock 16" steelies wrapped in bfg a/t 265/75 and I have a k&n shortram intake installed

    One more thing is bank 1 driver side or passenger side cat?

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  2. Dec 4, 2012 at 6:52 AM
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    Bump
     
  3. Dec 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM
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    I don't know the answers to all of your questions but here goes:

    -The truck has 4 cats, the rear two are not monitored, so one of the front two cats must be bad

    -If the error code relates to a cat issue, the ECM could be messing with the A/F ration and causing you to get poor mileage.

    That's all from me.
     
  4. Dec 4, 2012 at 9:50 AM
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    Thank you sir
     
  5. Dec 4, 2012 at 11:52 AM
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    The cats are monitored by the two O2 sensors right behind them. Just as a note, a bad sensor could cause it to set a false code. Make sure that the O2 sensor for the failed cat is not sending erroneous data.
     
  6. Dec 5, 2012 at 4:00 AM
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    I know that also an exhaust leak could cause the code too
     
  7. Dec 6, 2012 at 6:18 AM
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    So now I also have P0430 too
     
  8. Dec 7, 2012 at 3:21 PM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...
    might have something to do with you RUNNING DIESEL IN YOUR TACO. funny you left that part out, unless you cant keep your stories straight.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2012 at 6:25 PM
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    Real mature asshole I was getting the code before that incident happened
     
  10. Dec 10, 2012 at 8:36 AM
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    I don't know why but I thought it wasn't good to run diesel in a gasoline engine...
     
  11. Dec 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM
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    I hate to say it but you're asking for advice on troubleshooting over the internet, it might be good to include all information. While the diesel incident might have happened afterwards, it could be why you're continuing to have issues. You're combating multiple issues. Also, I've read the whole bit on running laquer thinner to help clear the code but I'll be damned if I put that shit through my fuel system... Personally, I can't imagine what would possess someone to do such a thing. Running things like diesel or laquer through your fuel system might be why you're having trouble with your cats and/or O2 sensors.

    Also, you don't soak the cats in soapy water, it's a mixture of chemicals, I can't remember which ones, and it's supposed to restore the cats. Soapy water won't do anything.
     
  12. Dec 10, 2012 at 9:30 AM
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    laquer thinner?? damn that cant be a good thing for fuel lines or anything else for that matter
     
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    Wouldn't lacquer thinner just melt the lines?
     
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    It's supposedly an 'old school' method for cleaning the cats and clearing the error code. That being said, there's no way in hell I'd give it a go.

    The idea of soaking the cats to restore them might work. I've only seen it done online and again, not sure I'd have the balls to try it out but it makes more sense. It's just a chemical cleaning that restores the cats. At least the bath has no chance of hurting the engine's internals and fuel delivery system.
     
  15. Dec 10, 2012 at 10:27 AM
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  16. Dec 10, 2012 at 10:39 AM
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    You added paint thinner to your fuel tank....WTF? That'll only hurt your cats more. DO NOT do that again. You can't "clean" your cats either. Soaking the cats in soapy water will just make a mess. And get even more junk into your cat. Bank one is the left side, or drivers side of the engine(check a diagram to make sure).

    Hmmm...a few flaws here.. OBDII specifies that the catalyst MUST be monitored for efficiency. That's why post cat 02 sensors exist. They monitor catalyst efficiency. If both sensors (pre-cat and post-cat) read the same thing...there's a problem. 95% of the time a P0420 means your catalysts are on vacation, and won't be coming back.
     
  17. Dec 10, 2012 at 10:48 AM
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    Seeing the third gen section forced me to get a Ford...
    there are 4 cats and the 2 rear are not monitored. that's how people are able to swap out the y-pipe containing the rear 2 and not throw a code.

    from urdusa.com:

    The URD Competition Y Pipe does include ports for the rear O2 sensors. It will not cause a check engine light from elimination of the rear catalytic converters. On the 1GR-FE engine the rear O2 sensors are installed between the front and rear catalytic converters and they only monitor the health of the front set of catalytic converters. You will not need a rear O2 simulator to run this competition Y pipe.
     

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