1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Solid Axle Swap BS Thread

Discussion in 'Solid Axle Suspension' started by Supra TT, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. Dec 23, 2012 at 2:35 PM
    #1221
    awsumdc

    awsumdc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Member:
    #12156
    Messages:
    1,674
    Gender:
    Male
    O.C. Cali
    Vehicle:
    SASED '05 Taco
    SAS, crawler box, 14" coilover shocks, 39.5 tires,dual batteries, and a bunch of other stuff
    Wow.... That sucks.

    There are a bunch of good pictures of Dans 1st gen dble cab. It's my favorite. I like it more than mine.;)
     
  2. Dec 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM
    #1222
    awsumdc

    awsumdc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Member:
    #12156
    Messages:
    1,674
    Gender:
    Male
    O.C. Cali
    Vehicle:
    SASED '05 Taco
    SAS, crawler box, 14" coilover shocks, 39.5 tires,dual batteries, and a bunch of other stuff
    That happens quite a bit when you have an ARB in the front of the IFS trucks and you get bound up with the wheels turned. Thats why I tell people to turn it on and turn it off as soon as you can if you have a rear locker. Or if you have a twin stick you can shift from 4wd to 2wd while the front is still locked and shift back while on the fly.
     
  3. Dec 23, 2012 at 3:20 PM
    #1223
    rctoy

    rctoy It's about to get real!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Member:
    #72789
    Messages:
    6,981
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    konstantenos
    Pocatello Idaho
    Vehicle:
    First gen 4door monster in progress
    TRD super charger, URD fuel mods and 2.1 super grip pully, Headers, 2.5" glass pack, Dana 60 front 4 linked, 14bolt rears on chev 63's, 5.38 gears, ARB locker in the front, PSC full hydraulic steering, 18" SAW 2.5" triple rate coils overs, FOA 2.5 air bumps, B&M launch controls, B&M trans cooler, 4 alpine 6X8 type R's amped, Red led rock lights, CBI front and rear bumpers (my design) CBI sliders, 4 riggid dualys front 2 in the rear, custom track bar, ARB snorkle, warn VR8000 winch, Viair 480c twin compressers..
    not what i wanted to hear.. but thanks for the advice i kinda figured part of the failure is due to the design of the arb its self. we where snow wheeling and that shit happened trying to clib a rock ledge. finnished the trail out 3 wheel drive.
     
  4. Dec 23, 2012 at 3:36 PM
    #1224
    thegame

    thegame Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2011
    Member:
    #52855
    Messages:
    1,657
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Brian
    Folsom, CA
    Vehicle:
    Cement 2019 TRD OR
    Throwing around the idea of 3 linking my truck now instead of leaf springs :eek: $1000 for coilovers, $300 for rod ends, $400 more in material maybe. Damn! Maybe leafs are the way to go for now...
     
  5. Dec 23, 2012 at 4:02 PM
    #1225
    rctoy

    rctoy It's about to get real!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Member:
    #72789
    Messages:
    6,981
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    konstantenos
    Pocatello Idaho
    Vehicle:
    First gen 4door monster in progress
    TRD super charger, URD fuel mods and 2.1 super grip pully, Headers, 2.5" glass pack, Dana 60 front 4 linked, 14bolt rears on chev 63's, 5.38 gears, ARB locker in the front, PSC full hydraulic steering, 18" SAW 2.5" triple rate coils overs, FOA 2.5 air bumps, B&M launch controls, B&M trans cooler, 4 alpine 6X8 type R's amped, Red led rock lights, CBI front and rear bumpers (my design) CBI sliders, 4 riggid dualys front 2 in the rear, custom track bar, ARB snorkle, warn VR8000 winch, Viair 480c twin compressers..
    more money longer wait but worth it. Just like waiting for some 17 year old peice of ass to turn 18 sure you want it and shes gonna work better but you gotta wait.
     
  6. Dec 23, 2012 at 4:50 PM
    #1226
    awsumdc

    awsumdc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Member:
    #12156
    Messages:
    1,674
    Gender:
    Male
    O.C. Cali
    Vehicle:
    SASED '05 Taco
    SAS, crawler box, 14" coilover shocks, 39.5 tires,dual batteries, and a bunch of other stuff
    It's not the design of the arb that did it. It's the fact that you have the front locked at all that did. Any true locker would have caused that damage. But then again the arb locker is stronger than hell. Locking the front ifs is a delicate situation because the front diff and components is just not that strong. Through in a rock ledge and the skinny pedal and things like that will happen. Put a crawler in there and you can save those parts by using control instead of HP.
     
  7. Dec 23, 2012 at 5:45 PM
    #1227
    rctoy

    rctoy It's about to get real!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Member:
    #72789
    Messages:
    6,981
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    konstantenos
    Pocatello Idaho
    Vehicle:
    First gen 4door monster in progress
    TRD super charger, URD fuel mods and 2.1 super grip pully, Headers, 2.5" glass pack, Dana 60 front 4 linked, 14bolt rears on chev 63's, 5.38 gears, ARB locker in the front, PSC full hydraulic steering, 18" SAW 2.5" triple rate coils overs, FOA 2.5 air bumps, B&M launch controls, B&M trans cooler, 4 alpine 6X8 type R's amped, Red led rock lights, CBI front and rear bumpers (my design) CBI sliders, 4 riggid dualys front 2 in the rear, custom track bar, ARB snorkle, warn VR8000 winch, Viair 480c twin compressers..
    Trust me no large amount of skinny pedal was used on this ledge the supercharger lays down power for sure but i can smoothly apply touqe with an auto trans. the reason i think it's partly due to the design of the arb is the arb uses less spline contact area than a factory spider gear.
     
  8. Dec 23, 2012 at 8:24 PM
    #1228
    Slodgetto

    Slodgetto Über Posre

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Member:
    #49483
    Messages:
    9,276
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Silas
    Danggg....... Looking at the pic, I think you're right. Makes me worry a bit...
    Maybe so... but 44s with 5.38s will be comparable to 35s and 4.30s...... Not counting the fact that the 44s will have a lot more rotational mass and your truck will be a lot heavier. That's why I think it'll be a bit too high. :eek: Like I said before, shoundn't matter too much off-road since you'll have the Atlas. It's just that it's not going to have a whole lot of grunt on the street. :notsure:

    Strictly by numbers, you would need 6.17s to get back to the stock ratio. :eek:
    DOOOO EEET!:D It is $$$ tho... lots... and lots...... :pout:
     
  9. Dec 23, 2012 at 8:53 PM
    #1229
    rctoy

    rctoy It's about to get real!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Member:
    #72789
    Messages:
    6,981
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    konstantenos
    Pocatello Idaho
    Vehicle:
    First gen 4door monster in progress
    TRD super charger, URD fuel mods and 2.1 super grip pully, Headers, 2.5" glass pack, Dana 60 front 4 linked, 14bolt rears on chev 63's, 5.38 gears, ARB locker in the front, PSC full hydraulic steering, 18" SAW 2.5" triple rate coils overs, FOA 2.5 air bumps, B&M launch controls, B&M trans cooler, 4 alpine 6X8 type R's amped, Red led rock lights, CBI front and rear bumpers (my design) CBI sliders, 4 riggid dualys front 2 in the rear, custom track bar, ARB snorkle, warn VR8000 winch, Viair 480c twin compressers..
    yeah thats y i was only gonna wheel the 44's and town drive on 37's if i end up doing alot of town driving in the truck.
     
  10. Dec 23, 2012 at 8:59 PM
    #1230
    awsumdc

    awsumdc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Member:
    #12156
    Messages:
    1,674
    Gender:
    Male
    O.C. Cali
    Vehicle:
    SASED '05 Taco
    SAS, crawler box, 14" coilover shocks, 39.5 tires,dual batteries, and a bunch of other stuff
    I'm running 5.38's in my diffs on 40's and 41's. Does very nice with the 5 speed auto tranny that these newer Taco's have.
     
  11. Dec 23, 2012 at 9:34 PM
    #1231
    Justin723

    Justin723 Dont judge me

    Joined:
    May 24, 2009
    Member:
    #17577
    Messages:
    541
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Phoenix AZ
    Vehicle:
    02 Tacoma TRD
    Performance- bored .20 over, Doug Thorely Headers, Magnaflow Exhaust, and K&N cold air intake. Exterior- Trail Gear Solid Axle Swap, ARB compressor, high pinion 4.88 with ARB locker, 4.88 TRD Locker in the rear. Interior- 2 10inch JL W1 subs, Alpine MRX-V70 amp, Alpine type R SPR 17C 6x6 speaker in the back, Focal 165 VR with crossover tweeter up front, and Weather Tech floor mats.
    Hey awsumdc, did you use a relay for your light that are hooked up to your rocker switch?
     
  12. Dec 24, 2012 at 7:36 AM
    #1232
    awsumdc

    awsumdc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Member:
    #12156
    Messages:
    1,674
    Gender:
    Male
    O.C. Cali
    Vehicle:
    SASED '05 Taco
    SAS, crawler box, 14" coilover shocks, 39.5 tires,dual batteries, and a bunch of other stuff
    Yes I did. I use relays on everything I hook up. It's just cheap insurance. I even used relays for my in cab winch controls.

    DSC02014Copy_zps63e2cb85_36711fda10bcc228ef2938908f11cf83c793d9e6.jpg
     
  13. Dec 24, 2012 at 7:53 AM
    #1233
    rctoy

    rctoy It's about to get real!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Member:
    #72789
    Messages:
    6,981
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    konstantenos
    Pocatello Idaho
    Vehicle:
    First gen 4door monster in progress
    TRD super charger, URD fuel mods and 2.1 super grip pully, Headers, 2.5" glass pack, Dana 60 front 4 linked, 14bolt rears on chev 63's, 5.38 gears, ARB locker in the front, PSC full hydraulic steering, 18" SAW 2.5" triple rate coils overs, FOA 2.5 air bumps, B&M launch controls, B&M trans cooler, 4 alpine 6X8 type R's amped, Red led rock lights, CBI front and rear bumpers (my design) CBI sliders, 4 riggid dualys front 2 in the rear, custom track bar, ARB snorkle, warn VR8000 winch, Viair 480c twin compressers..
    yeah shouldnt be a big deal just takes a little more grunt to get up and go. but im so set on that gearing and 44's is what i wanna run but most likely ill end up with the MTR 42/14.5R17. Eventually after all is tested and well ill buy a set of 44" boggers and cut out the little claw for playing in the sand or snow (only in the dessert) and for any show i its gonna end up in.
     
  14. Dec 24, 2012 at 7:56 AM
    #1234
    awsumdc

    awsumdc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Member:
    #12156
    Messages:
    1,674
    Gender:
    Male
    O.C. Cali
    Vehicle:
    SASED '05 Taco
    SAS, crawler box, 14" coilover shocks, 39.5 tires,dual batteries, and a bunch of other stuff
    You can really see how the splines were twisted in that picture. Looks like that may have been happening over time and finally twisted off on that ledge you were on. But then again, I rather have that break than to have my carrier breaking. Much cheaper that way.

    When I went to Australia, I got to see the factory at ARB and their test facility. What they put those lockers through to test them was amazing. I saw one locker break a 21/2" axle shaft. I was in awe.

    DSC02918640x480_3e3c5c146b3d570ac4d7798cf5501623c0a84976.jpg

    DSC02882640x480_a7fc2f21ab4a82e223836eb0d3c7b195701c8995.jpg
     
  15. Dec 24, 2012 at 7:57 AM
    #1235
    rctoy

    rctoy It's about to get real!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Member:
    #72789
    Messages:
    6,981
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    konstantenos
    Pocatello Idaho
    Vehicle:
    First gen 4door monster in progress
    TRD super charger, URD fuel mods and 2.1 super grip pully, Headers, 2.5" glass pack, Dana 60 front 4 linked, 14bolt rears on chev 63's, 5.38 gears, ARB locker in the front, PSC full hydraulic steering, 18" SAW 2.5" triple rate coils overs, FOA 2.5 air bumps, B&M launch controls, B&M trans cooler, 4 alpine 6X8 type R's amped, Red led rock lights, CBI front and rear bumpers (my design) CBI sliders, 4 riggid dualys front 2 in the rear, custom track bar, ARB snorkle, warn VR8000 winch, Viair 480c twin compressers..
    so really quick guys has anyone heard of a better ADD shaft (the one i broke) or should i consider cryo?? the axle should be the weak link and thats where i want my damn weak link. stupid IFS anyways. so want my 60 under the truck right meow.
     
  16. Dec 24, 2012 at 7:59 AM
    #1236
    rctoy

    rctoy It's about to get real!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Member:
    #72789
    Messages:
    6,981
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    konstantenos
    Pocatello Idaho
    Vehicle:
    First gen 4door monster in progress
    TRD super charger, URD fuel mods and 2.1 super grip pully, Headers, 2.5" glass pack, Dana 60 front 4 linked, 14bolt rears on chev 63's, 5.38 gears, ARB locker in the front, PSC full hydraulic steering, 18" SAW 2.5" triple rate coils overs, FOA 2.5 air bumps, B&M launch controls, B&M trans cooler, 4 alpine 6X8 type R's amped, Red led rock lights, CBI front and rear bumpers (my design) CBI sliders, 4 riggid dualys front 2 in the rear, custom track bar, ARB snorkle, warn VR8000 winch, Viair 480c twin compressers..
    im gonna run aftermarket shafts on that side from now on and factory shafts on the drives side so i can kinda put a week link in the safest spot if that makes any sence. Feels wrong talking IFS tech here.
     
  17. Dec 24, 2012 at 9:52 AM
    #1237
    awsumdc

    awsumdc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2009
    Member:
    #12156
    Messages:
    1,674
    Gender:
    Male
    O.C. Cali
    Vehicle:
    SASED '05 Taco
    SAS, crawler box, 14" coilover shocks, 39.5 tires,dual batteries, and a bunch of other stuff
    I couldn't find any of the 40+ MTR's and thats why I went with the Irok radials. I had an oder in for 6 months and got tired of waiting. I even called Goodyear corp twice with no luck.
     
  18. Dec 24, 2012 at 10:37 AM
    #1238
    4WD

    4WD cRaZy oLdmAn

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2009
    Member:
    #19185
    Messages:
    23,530
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Doug
    Lakeside, Ca / Gardnerville, Nevada
    Vehicle:
    2004 DC TRD 4x
    Grey wire MOD, deck plate, diff breather MOD, 2nd gen. OME 883# on Tundra 5100's, OMD custom 3" leafsprings, rear shock relocation, Ivan Stewart TRD rims w/285/75/16's, '02 bumper MOD, Famous Fabrications sliders , LED interior/exterior lights, bed bar, Custom tube bumper, Old school KC day lighters,Red Ring 8" HID flood, Kenwood vhf 2M.. umm some other shit I'm forgetting right now

    I hate IFS & all the "pussy parts" as i call them. No real strong points to any of it IMO
     
  19. Dec 24, 2012 at 11:17 AM
    #1239
    Justin723

    Justin723 Dont judge me

    Joined:
    May 24, 2009
    Member:
    #17577
    Messages:
    541
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Justin
    Phoenix AZ
    Vehicle:
    02 Tacoma TRD
    Performance- bored .20 over, Doug Thorely Headers, Magnaflow Exhaust, and K&N cold air intake. Exterior- Trail Gear Solid Axle Swap, ARB compressor, high pinion 4.88 with ARB locker, 4.88 TRD Locker in the rear. Interior- 2 10inch JL W1 subs, Alpine MRX-V70 amp, Alpine type R SPR 17C 6x6 speaker in the back, Focal 165 VR with crossover tweeter up front, and Weather Tech floor mats.
    Ok sweet deal. I'm kinda new with the 5 pin switches. Do I run 2 grounds, 1 wire to the parking lights (so the bottom light is illuminated), 1 hot, and then 1 going back to the relay?
     
  20. Dec 24, 2012 at 12:32 PM
    #1240
    rctoy

    rctoy It's about to get real!!!

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Member:
    #72789
    Messages:
    6,981
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    konstantenos
    Pocatello Idaho
    Vehicle:
    First gen 4door monster in progress
    TRD super charger, URD fuel mods and 2.1 super grip pully, Headers, 2.5" glass pack, Dana 60 front 4 linked, 14bolt rears on chev 63's, 5.38 gears, ARB locker in the front, PSC full hydraulic steering, 18" SAW 2.5" triple rate coils overs, FOA 2.5 air bumps, B&M launch controls, B&M trans cooler, 4 alpine 6X8 type R's amped, Red led rock lights, CBI front and rear bumpers (my design) CBI sliders, 4 riggid dualys front 2 in the rear, custom track bar, ARB snorkle, warn VR8000 winch, Viair 480c twin compressers..
    id take offence to that but i agree. it's just the stage the truck is at waiting on better bigger parts. i still don't under stand these people that wanna do LT
     
To Top