Hockey Trash Talk & BS thread

I was still in my jammies

 

yeah, 11am is a better time, especially during holidays.

This is apparently the top team from the German League. They have 6 Canadians on their roster. 4 Americans and the rest are German.

 

Canada vs Davos tomorrow

 

The Junior squad? Which kid?

 

Rienhart

 

Cool. I will watch for him.

Watchin the Davos-Canada game. It is strange to see Jumbo Joe playing for Davos. He always seems to be wearin the red and white

 

Must have wax vac

 

LOLLL

 

wut

 

No need to be jealous man

 

I second that! Tyler did you find a way to watch it?

 

Those shitty commercials on NHL network.

 

It looks like there might finally be some new life in the CBA negotiations. The NHL has sent the union a new proposal according to ESPN and TSN’s Pierre LeBrun, RDS’ Renaud Lavoie and, originally, Eklund of Hockey Buzz.

Perhaps the biggest news is that the NHL is now willing to allow for contracts to be a maximum of six years under normal circumstances and seven if a team is re-signing one of its players. That’s up from the NHL’s previous demand of five-year term limits, which deputy commissioner Bill Daly once called “the hill we’ll die on.”

Here are some of the other main points:

– The NHL is now willing to allow a variance of 10% in contracts, up from its previous offer of 5%.

– $300 million in Make Whole or, as NHLPA boss Donald Fehr prefers to call it, “transition payments” is still on the table.

– The salary cap for 2013-14 would be $60 million.

– Each team would be allowed to buy out one contract prior to 2013-14 without it impacting the salary cap. However, the money would still come out of the players’ share of hockey-related revenues.

– The proposed CBA is still a 10-year deal and an “extremely detailed proposal,” according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune’s Michael Russo.

It’s worth noting that Daly would not confirm this offer when asked by LeBrun, although an NHL player has been cited as a source.

There’s also no negotiating session scheduled yet and the NHLPA had yet to make an official statement on the matter.

 

Even as Detroit Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch is asking for about $150 million in state subsidies for a new hockey arena, it turns out he’s been getting a previously undisclosed public gift: His Olympia Entertainment company’s lease on Joe Louis Arena and Cobo Hall says that he needs to share 25% of all cable TV revenue for live events with the city, but he hasn’t paid a dime since 1980.

Needless to say, that could be a lot of money: Fox Sports Detroit is currently paying more than $100 million a year to televise games of the Red Wings, Tigers, and Pistons. How exactly the city’s share should be calculated, though, sounds like it’s going to be contentious: City finance staff estimated last year that Ilitch’s total delinquent debt is about $70 million; sports economist Andrew Zimbalist says it’s more like $10 million or so, since it only applies to rights to home games; and an Olympia official insisted in 2007 that it doesn’t owe squat, because Olympia itself doesn’t sell cable rights, only the teams themselves do, so nyah nyah nyah.

Whether the city will ever demand that Ilitch pay up, given that it’s in the middle of negotiations with him over a new lease for a new arena, is questionable. Detroit Mayor (and former Pistons star) Dave Bing is in the middle of a crackdown on tax delinquents, but when asked by the Detroit News about the cable TV money, he responded by email:

“During the City’s current negotiations with Olympia Entertainment regarding a lease for Joe Louis Arena, I have directed the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation (DEGC) to secure an agreement that is fair and equitable to both parties. Although our primary focus has been on developing a new lease agreement, we will take appropriate steps to collect any money that is owed to the City.

“We look forward to resolving all issues past and present in our negotiations with Olympia Entertainment.”

Reading between the lines, I’ll go out on a limb and predict that either Bing will absolve the past cable debts as part of a new deal, or Ilitch will agree to make some token payment in exchange for an equal amount of new subsidies. Meanwhile, it’s a reminder of what should be Lessons #1 and #2 of sports facility negotiations: Leases aren’t even worth the paper they’re printed on if 1) you don’t write them to be specific about who owes what and 2) you don’t remember to enforce them for 32 years.

 

Oh , I don't get that channel

 

I just figured it's LA and all so maybe they actually did play grab the stick

 

If the NHLPA can't find a way to a deal now they can go fuck themselves

 

The building they are playing the Spengler Cup in is amazing

 

OZ, have you seen the Canada vs Slovakia game yet?