front 5100's w/ eibach coils..lift height???

quick ques....got my lift narrowed down to billi's at all 4....1.5"aal in back....will use the eibach coils but no top spacers....how much lift am I approx. looking at if I run the frt's at .85 and 0....

Im guessing at .85 it's around 2.5" and 0 will be 2"?????

 

Assuming a 4wd V6, you'd be looking at 1.6" and 2.5" if you set the Billies at 0 and .85 respectively. You will need the 1/4" spacer on the driver's side to compensate for lean.

 

how great is that? you got your question answered in 4 min. Pugga knows his stuff too. you should be spot on with that.

 

You may want to add a a leaf pack over a single AAL.

I have the exact lift your thinking of doing. There's pics and info in my build thread (in my sig).

 

I just so happen to have that very lift

In my opinion though, setting the Billies to .85 would be pretty stiff. You can get varing lift heights with the OME coils and have a lighter spring rate than the Eibachs (and still heavier than stock). At 0, the Eibachs are noticably stiffer than stock but still comfortable. At .85, to each their own, but I wouldn't want to preload my Eibachs unless I was compensating for a heavy bumper or a winch.

 

yes thanks for the fast reply!!!!
it is a DBLC 4x4 09
Reason as to why im asking is I am literally about to order the 5100 kit from toytec and have them pre assemble the shocks and need to figure where I should tell them to set the perch....

Can I get away from not having to use UCA's at 2.5" w/ the spring set at .85???? dont have the $ for them right now and have about half life left in tires...

how about rake??? will i still have some w/ 2.5" frt and 1.5" rear???

 

I can use OME coils on billie's??? didnt know that.....

 

You can get away with it but you might have a wandering feeling at speed. You won't be able to get a good caster number in your alignment or the shop will sacrifice some camber to gain caster adjustment. You can do it, some people have done it and had 0 issues with the ride so it's luck of the draw.

As far as rake, each truck is different as suspensions settle over time. Your best bet is to go out and measure your truck on a flat surface from hub to fender. Compare the front and back measurements and see what the difference is. In my opinion though, when a truck measures dead level, to me it looks a little nose high. Again, just my opinion. On a new truck, putting a 1.5" AAL on the rear and adding 2.5" to the front should damn near level you of not leave you with a little bit of rake.

 

Yes, you can. At 0, here's the lift you can expect roughly:
883 coils - 1.5" of lift
884 coils ~ 2" of lift
885 coils ~ 2.5-2.75" of lift

883, 884 and 885 coils all have the same spring rate, they just get progressively taller. Each one is 10mm taller than the next lowest number or about 1/2".

886 coils should be paired with OME shocks and only if you have a plate bumper and winch or armor.

 

cool, thanks!
may try the complete eibach/billie system at 1st and see how it goes...if not so good then not too $ o swap out to OME coils and as last resort....looks like it will be UCA's

I'll touch back when I get everything installed

 

Yes please do. I'm sub'd!

Mike what are the chances of problems with 5100's at .85 with the 885x? I'm looking for a little more than just 2.75-3". Really want to get to the 3.25-3.5" range with the 2" aal. I have the 5100's already

 

I wouldn't go over 3" of lift without a drop bracket for the front differential. Going over the 3" mark just puts everything at bad angles, your CVs will wear out quicker, your boots will tear and you'll have almost no down travel (unless you use extended travel coilovers). Prerunners have the option of using lift spindles but for us with 4wd, your options are limited to 3" suspension lift, drop bracket lifts or SAS. Check out PSUTaco85's build. He used a 3" suspension lift and then a 1" body lift to gain a little more clearance.

To specifically answer your question, I wouldn't put 5100's at .85 with new 885x coils for the reasons listed above. That being said, some people have kicked their 5100's up to .85 as their coils have either settled or to compensate for a plate bumper or other added weight.

 

The 1/4" spacer is required for the lean even with as little lift as eibach coils and Billies set at 0? Where does the spacer go exactly? Vehicle in question is '12 DBCB TRD OR and waiting on Toyota to approve TSB leaf pack. Apologizes for the hijack, and sub's to see OP results.

 

I have this set up on my double cab 4x4 short box. I have the fronts at 0.85 and ended up with around 2.75" of lift up front, and I put a 2" AAL in the back with 5100's as well. Back sit's approx. 1" higher than the front. At this height I had to get UCA's as I had numerous alignments, and none could get it even close to what it was stock, and it felt all loose on the highway with low castor. I actually don't find the ride stiff at all with my 265/70-17 C rated Duratracs...in fact I think it's far better than it was stock JMHO. Pic's in my gallery.

 

Yes, you would still need the lean spacer. The spacer goes on top of the assembled coilover assembly (spacer sits on top of the coil's top plate). I have 5100's at 0 with Eibach coils and have the lean spacer in place. I still have a very slight lean but it's not overly noticable visually. Without the spacer, you'd be able to tell.

The lean spacer is required with any aftermarket coils. It is not required if you just preload your stock coils.

 

^ agree with the above 100%. I forgot to add my lean spacer initially, and you could tell the difference easily. With it in, you'd need a measuring tape to tell the difference.

 

Is it really that noticeable? Its not noticeably different when its stock/5100's set to 1.75". Whats the difference?

 

Stock springs are side specific, so you wouldn't be able to tell. With aftermarket springs you can tell for sure.

 

Not disagreeing this is merely another question.

Drivers side lean spacer is only 1/4". If your sitting in the truck and its only dipped 1/4" is it really that noticeable at say a view from across a red light?

Thanks

 

The spacer is 1/4", it accounts for about 1/2" of lean though. Without the spacer, it would be visually noticable.