Oregon and Washington BS thread

Fivespeed · Jan 7, 2013

Chickenmunga said: ↑

Way to keep being an ass, Jonnie

Fivespeed, you will eventually find yourself heading to tillamook state forest if you want to put the truck and yourself to the test. If you want something a bit more moderate, you will most likely want Barlow Toll Road. Both areas are going to be tough or undoable depending on snow.
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Tough or undoable yet moderate? Lol.. this is my first time offroading so definitely something for beginners. I'll check those places out. Thanks man!

Chickenmunga · Jan 7, 2013

Since it is your first time you wont want to do tsf. Wait for barlow. Better still is to ride shotgun so you know what to expect. Better to have to miss a day by riding passenger than having a body damage bill

Bobert14 · Jan 7, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD474hN5a7w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRnUbgRYltw

Bobert14 · Jan 7, 2013

Badass!
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/01/07/heavy-duty-ram-truck-runs-on-1-gas/?intcmp=features

It’s an age-old question: what do we do about heavy duty trucks and the high cost and consumption of fuel? These mighty machines are meant for hauling gear, transporting crews to job sites, and pulling massive trailers, but you often have to live at the gas station to keep them running.
The 2012 Ram 2500 HD CNG offers a new alternative. Outfitted with two compressed natural gas (CNG) tanks in the bed, it is a factory truck like no other. Other automakers offer full-size pickup CNG conversions, but Ram is the only one that builds its own in house.
So what’s the advantage?
Most important, a low cost of operation. CNG sells for significantly less than gasoline. The national average is currently $2.15 per gasoline gallon equivalent (GGE) vs. $3.30 per gallon of gasoline. In some places it can be had for as low as $1.00 per GGE. The upfront cost of the vehicle is high, about $11,000 more than the convention $46,505 Ram 2500 HD it is based on, but a lot of that can be recouped under heavy operation, and there are various tax incentives available for owners of CNG vehicles.
There’s also the added bonus of extra range. The base truck comes with an 8-gallon gasoline tank that offers only about 110 miles of driving, but you gain another 255 miles from the twin 18 GGE CNG cylinders. Customers can also opt for a 35-gallon gasoline tank for $350, which means a total range of 750 miles.
If the environment is your thing, CNG produces lower emissions than gasoline or diesel. National security hawks will also appreciate the fact that nearly all of the CNG sold in the U.S. is domestically-produced.
But there are a few trade-offs.
For starters, there are only a handful of public CNG fueling stations across the country. Doug Killian, Ram’s Engineering Program Manager, says that’s changing, especially in areas like New York and Los Angeles, but in Minnesota, for instance, there are only five CNG stations and the total nationwide is likely less than 1,000.
iPhone apps like CNGNow are available to help pinpoint stations in your area, but the vehicles are still best suited to fleet operators with their own central fueling facility. That said, if you have natural gas in your home, you can install a low-pressure pump that’ll fill up the truck while you sleep.
Another minor drawback for heavy-duty work is that peak horsepower on the 383 hp 5.7-liter HEMI V8 drops 20% at 5,000 RPM when using CNG. In fact, the Ram 2500 will automatically switch to gasoline under these conditions. In our tests, we rarely hit that engine speed, which is only necessary when accelerating under wide-open throttle, particularly with a heavy load.
For pulling out stumps, hauling a light trailer, or pushing through a muddy ravine, the torque on hand is more than adequate and you’ll never notice a difference. The only time we felt a slight loss of power was while merging into high-speed traffic from a dead stop. In one instance, when running out of CNG on the highway, the switchover to gasoline was accompanied by a loud thunk.
Low temperature presents a slight issue as well. In extreme cold, the truck has to start by using gasoline, switching to CNG once the engine warms up, so be sure to keep some fuel in that tank.
That said, operating the vehicle is incredibly straightforward. The valves on the CNG tank only need to be closed during shipping, and the vehicle uses a standard fuel gauge to show the level of compressed gas in the tanks. To fill it up you simply couple the hose to the CNG nipple, which is located behind the same door as the conventional fuel filler, and start pumping.
The most obvious drawback with having the CNG tanks is that you lose about one-third of the bed, but there’s still room to plenty of gear. The Crew Cab version we tested had room for six adults and offered plenty of headroom.
Ram says it intended the 2500 HD CNG for fleets, but expanded the offering when individual customers kept demanding them and is continuing the program into 2013.
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Mitch · Jan 7, 2013

What is everyone's thought on the AllPro Hybrid bumper? Have a chance to get one for a decent price

Bennett707 · Jan 7, 2013

came home from lunch, went to go back to work and truck wouldn't start up.

every now and then i could get the radio to turn on, but soon as i turned ignition everything went out. gonna clean some terminals, check cables, and if needed buy a red top.

jeverich · Jan 7, 2013

Ipreferwater said: ↑

came home from lunch, went to go back to work and truck wouldn't start up.

every now and then i could get the radio to turn on, but soon as i turned ignition everything went out. gonna clean some terminals, check cables, and if needed buy a red top.
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Red tops look bling..but I'd go with a Sears Diehard Platinum if I were you. I shopped around and did a lot of research a few months ago when I upgraded my stock battery.

DieHard Platinum AGM and Odyssey seem to be the best out there IMO.

Bennett707 · Jan 7, 2013

jeverich said: ↑

Red tops look bling..but I'd go with a Sears Diehard Platinum if I were you. I shopped around and did a lot of research a few months ago when I upgraded my stock battery.

DieHard Platinum AGM and Odyssey seem to be the best out there IMO.
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I can get a brand new redtop for 140. whats the price on those?

JoeTacoma02 · Jan 7, 2013

Mitch said: ↑

What is everyone's thought on the AllPro Hybrid bumper? Have a chance to get one for a decent price
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I effin love those! If I didn't score such a great deal on my bumper I would have been on a hunt for one of those since they're no longer in production. Are you getting it from a local guy that was selling his suspension parts not long ago?

I haven't seen your truck since you installed the lift but add wheel spacers to pop your tires out a bit with that bumper and your truck will look BEAST!

Just my .02

and I'll be jealous of your front bumper..

J88logue · Jan 7, 2013

Ipreferwater said: ↑

I can get a brand new redtop for 140. whats the price on those?
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Whats so special about yellow top/red top batteries?

Well i guess at L.S. out batteries are about $100.

Bennett707 · Jan 7, 2013

from optima's site:

Red Top Benefits:
Strong starting burst
Up to two times longer life
More than 15 times the vibration resistance
Spillproof, mountable in virtually any position
Maintenance-free
Faster recharging
Optimal starting power
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Yellow Top Benefits:
Deep-cycle and cranking power
Up to two times longer life
More than 15 times the vibration resistance
Spillproof, mountable in virtually any position
Maintenance-free
Faster recharging
Optimal starting power
300+ discharge/recharge cycles
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I hear great things about optima, from my quick gatherings, red is for ignition, yellow is for vibrations, and blue is for marine.

Bennett707 · Jan 7, 2013

and L.S sells batteries? lol. seems like people like that sears one, but I doubt the one here in town sells batteries.

jeverich · Jan 7, 2013

I was originally thinking of going to a Red Top... But I read quite a few stories of bad batteries. Apparently after Optima shifted production to Mexico quality control went to shit. Maybe they've got it sorted out - IDK. Seemed like it was really hit or miss.

A battery is pretty important to me..

Sears has got DieHards for about $220. Plus they're made by Deka in the US if that matters.

Bennett707 · Jan 7, 2013

i hope i don't have to buy a new battery, i don't really want to fork out 140 or 220 either way! optima's warranty is 3 years vs 4 years at sears.

i also wonder if yellow is worth looking into. before i do a purchase ill do research but damnit batteries are stupid expensive thats 1/3 of a bumper.

snowgod06 · Jan 7, 2013

Shit you guys pay a lot for batteries lol. I just used my work discount at carquest and got a battery for $80ish. Lol

Chickenmunga · Jan 7, 2013

Dont ask me why, but if you do go optima, you are supposed to go for yellow, not red. If you hop over to the gitout.com forum, venturer did a writeup. I thought about odyssey but heard there were problems because its basically a standard battery with double the fins or something and somehow that causes problems - again, it was written up over on gitout

Bennett707 · Jan 7, 2013

thanks for your input Mike, I find most of your posts pretty helpful and knowledgeable.

Bennett707 · Jan 7, 2013

Jonnie I still need to extend my rear brake line. You just bought yours from toytec right? I thought about a braided one on TW but the guy quoted me 110$ for it. I thought it was ridiculous, maybe he misquoted me.

gdry06 · Jan 7, 2013

octaco has front and rear for 103 shipped. any length you want

Bennett707 · Jan 7, 2013

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octaco has front and rear for 103 shipped. any length you want
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he must have read my pm wrong, because he quoted me 110 and all i asked for was the rear.

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