92 Long Travel Pickup Build

Some "people on the internet" have a shit ton of experience and knowledge to throw around to try and help

just ssaayyyyin

 

Shawn your a super cool dude, and thank you for the smoke out at pismo.. I don't want to be someone who comes on here and bashes your shit, but after being able to see ZZRs in person your truck is insanely unsafe. The shakle mounts are extremely thin and only "gusseted" on one side.. Do you understand how much stress those mounts take? Mine are FULLY boxed in and they might already be bent. I'm not trying to come here and shit on your thread, but if you plan on continuing to run those shackles please for the love of jaysus go have mr.locke plate the shit out of them.

And your truck is going to be sick when you are able to put the right stuff on it. I love the way those older yotas look with fiberglass and LT

 

Danger is my middle name

Nah but I agree the shackle mounts could be a bit stronger but ive been on the look out for stress/bending/cracking and havn't seen any, like i said this is a TEMPORARY set up for the time being, till i have money set aside for a proper suspension setup. I could drop a k right now, but unfortunately at 200k miles a engine rebuild is a lil more of a concern. Lucky for my truck i dont drive it as hard as yours or else id definately run into some problems. are you concerned with bending the shackle mounts or the shackle itself?

 

Shawn..Danger...Pringle.. I like it!

I have TC 9" shackles I'd sell you for on-da-cheap when your ready.

I haven't investigated into it yet. Might just be the bushings, well see

 

No one has said your truck can't work they are trying to advise you on how to avoid breaking and wearing out parts on your truck. I suggest you start taking some advise from people who have more experience than yourself and learning a thing or two instead of getting defensive. The point they are most likely trying to make is that instead of buying those shackles you could be that much closer to a legitimate rear suspension that you won't have to constantly maintain

 

does this look that bad?

 

Show us the side thats compressing

 

its there look in the pic, theyre taken at the same position

 

my old yota. shawn its nice to see your giving it the care and such it deserves, theyre our projects for a reason right, its all about learning.

keep up the good work.

 

I know you think I'm stupid and zip doesn't know much but oddly enough it is dom tubing welded to the frame, gusseted both sides and underneath, with the proper poly bushings i might add. We also upgraded the bolt size while we were there to 5/8 I believe.
I agree the the shackles are a relatively weak point, and will be gusseting them more shortly. The rear side that is stuffed is approx 2 inches from bump, which more than likely results in a bit of negative arch (at complete full bump), but nowhere near "6 in of negative arch lol".
I appreciate the input and will be strengthening shackles asap, and more than likely adding more gussets to the mount.
I accept donations for tire straps. I'd rather buy a new transmission mount then throw down 60 bucks on ratchet straps for a spare tire setup im changing. I know it does'nt look trophy truck enough though with 1.5 in straps need moar

 

Are your shackles really mad of DOM ? I thought it was all plate...and the mounts.

 

Hahah i actually am unfortunate enough to live on ramen so that i can afford the commute to school. Those spares are so goddamn tightly wedged in the rack that we can barely get them out without straps, let alone "fall out on the freeway and hit a minivan" LOL.

I put those pictures up to show the shackle angle and flex of the spring. I didn't break out the strobes and jacks to provide you top quality perfectly lit diagrams of my set up so you can nit pick each feature.

Third, i was quoting another members words, you can scroll up and see them yourself. You really think im going to slap 2 pieces of plate, drill a hole, and let the shackle articulate on that? What are bushings? Derrrp. I took your advice, i will be plating the shackles for extra strength and possibly the mounts. I even stated that I appreciate your input and the changes i plan to make. I just find it a bit annoying when people say all these things (spare tire danger, janky mounts without bushings), when they havn't even seen it. I agreed with what you recommended, sorry i find some of your nit-picks semi-comedic given that i've already explained I am a full time student (aka obtaining aesthetically pleasing straps are the least of my worries).

Not sure how many times i have to explain this: I am working on a very limited budget. I am lucky enough to go offroading maybe once a week (if i skimp on meals), and when I do it's not through whoops at 80. There are a number of things that need to be upgraded, and will when I am able to. What is the sense throwing down 40 bucks for straps when i already have a set that work fine, in a situation where i could essentially run no strap and still be relatively safe? When im changing to a single tire carrier asap? Let alone a grand on deavers, mounts, etc, in a truck with 200k miles? That still has the battery up front? Sorry I'm not retarded enough to blow all my money on suspension components to achieve max travel and strength, somehow there was a time before coil overs and deavers that people were going fast in the dirt and having a good time. At the end of the day I need a vehicle to get me where I need to go, and therefore set aside money for maintenance (instead of blowing it on sweet lights and paint). Its a 20 year old truck after all...

I have priorities, the first being my health, and secondly my schooling. As much as i love my truck and offroading, It is simply an object, and although i work hard to do what I can to it (only had it for a few months now and a ton has changed already), it will not all be perfect in one day. I appreciate your constructive criticism, but where do you get off calling me names? What are you like 30? I'm earning my own way and building a truck on the side, sorry I cant vomit money into it like you can.
This is my build thread to document the changes in my truck and show them to my fellow members. The truck is in very early stages of what I am working towards doing. I appreciate any and all constructive criticism, but getting upset cause you thought i misquoted you is pretty gay...

Your clearly a smart and knowledgable individual, and I respect and appreciate your input. Just try and relax that part in your mind that has to be right and consider the fact that this is a) a garage fab low budget build and b) a 20 yr old truck with more pressing issues than premature leaf wear

 

hi shawn

 

No offence man but your shackle setup is completely unsafe and a danger to others around you on the road. and i not just talking about the negative arch from mounted under the frame, im talking about the mounting and the shackles themselves. I really don't think that could have been designed and built any worse. Please please please have those removed and have a real fabricator install something that works and wont kill people.

 

1st the reason your supposed to do shackles over the frame is because a true LT leaf pack has so much droop you would be lifted a ton if your shackles are long enough. If your shackles are not long enough its not going to perform as good. You will find out when you fab something incorrect it just costs more money, it does not save money

2nd you can rely on "wedging" your tire in all you want but what happens if the tire loses air? Or if you actually get a blowout and have the blown tire in the rear, then how do you keep it in? A standard 2" ratchet strap is $8 at HF, you don't need a race type "Y" strap for $60.

3rd why do you have harnesses without a cage?

Mine is also low budget garage fab there is nothing wrong with that, but if your going to make a death trap or put other people in danger your doing it wrong

 

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