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Same-sex marriage

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussion' started by neontrail, May 22, 2009.

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Same-sex marriage

  1. I am OK with it

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  2. NO!!!! Never

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  3. Whatever, just stay away from me

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  1. May 26, 2009 at 6:41 PM
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    cant go back now...opposite sex athiests get the title of marriage too. maybe we should go back to the days of ownership and nip this all in the bud?
     
  2. May 26, 2009 at 6:42 PM
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    Religion isn't Bullshit. Your constant scatological references to religion are offensive and immature. Having nothing as sacred should not predispose you to denigrating the faith of others.
     
  3. May 26, 2009 at 6:44 PM
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    putting religious intent on things that arent religious is BS. everyone can do their own thing, but they are trying to use religion to sway people towards not allowing people rights
     
  4. May 26, 2009 at 6:48 PM
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    i almost agree with you if i agreed christianity owned the rights to the word "marriage"... i mean, why would gays want to be a part of something associated with a group that thinks their lifestyle is so wrong and immoral.

    however, there are many other religous and non-religious groups out there that have their own versions of unions between couples and they refer to it as "marriage." many of these groups have practices and beliefs that are quite contrary to those of christianity... so why not make them change the names of their unions?

    even if it wasn't the original intention of the use of the word when it was first created... whatever it was whenever it happened... i think the term marriage is a more general term nowadays referring to the union of a couple and the definition of it varies depending on which culture, religion...etc. you are referring to.
     
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    Marriage in fact is an important aspect of many faiths. Including mine. It is a sacred thing. Who are you to say what someone thinks is religious? My feelings on the matter have been pushed much further against gay unions as a result of this conversation as I now believe it is not only equal rights, but a desire to force the will and mind to accept the unacceptable. Fascist in its intensity. I've had my say, have a good evening.
     
  6. May 26, 2009 at 7:02 PM
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    same goes for my thoughts against the religious nuts that want to rule it all. marriage can be obtained through a JOP and LEGALLY binding two ATHIESTS....how by any means is that religious????? its not. it may be religious to you, or followers of other religions, but not everyone. if you dont want gay marriage to happen, dont go marry your boyfriend....simple as that.
     
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  8. May 27, 2009 at 11:02 AM
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    Everybody is guilty of being hypocritical sometimes. It’s just part of being human; however, modern liberalism has taken this concept to stunning extremes. The entire liberal belief system, from top to bottom, is a series of logical blind alleys, bottlenecks, and jaw-dropping contradictions.

    To be a politically active liberal is to a be a person whose life is steeped in hypocrisy from the time he gets up until the time he goes to bed -- and that's despite the fact that many libs take morally abhorrent positions just so they can't be called hypocrites if they ever get caught doing something degenerate.

    That being said, I will freely acknowledge that every liberal isn't guilty of all the hypocrisies that are on this list and that conservatives can be contradictory, too. Now, let's see if that actually prompts some self-reflection on the Left as opposed to cries of "Here's something conservatives are hypocritical about" and "I don't believe this one." (Sure it will. ha! ha! ha!)

    Liberals believe that...

    1) ...it's impossible to come to any sort of reasonable compromise with conservatives on anything, but that we can fix our problems with nations like Iran and North Korea by just sitting down and talking things out.

    2) ...they're the most compassionate people in society. Yet, in study after study, you find that conservatives give more of their money to charity than liberals.

    3) ...they're not racist despite the fact that they consistently support policies that have been several orders of magnitude more devastating to black Americans than the Ku Klux Klan.

    4) ...we've all got to dramatically reduce our carbon footprint to save the planet. Yet, liberals like Al Gore live in big mansions and fly around in private jets while still maintaining their credibility with their fellow environmentalist libs.

    5) ...they're the people who are really looking out for women, but they strongly support sexual predators like Bill Clinton and they regularly hurl grotesque sexist insults at feminist role models like Sarah Palin who don't toe-the-liberal-line.

    6) ...we definitely need to have higher tax rates in this country. Yet many of Obama's nominees and cabinet members, including the Secretary of the Treasury, don't pay their taxes as is -- and liberals are okay with that.

    7) ...guns should be banned! Yet, while they want to take guns out of the hands of law-abiding Americans who live in dangerous neighborhoods, they believe liberal celebrities like Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell should be able to hire armed bodyguards.

    8) ...they're the ones who really care about educating children; yet time and time again, they support policies that hurt our kids, but help their political allies in the teachers’ unions.

    9) ...running deficits are bad! After all, liberals ceaselessly took credit for the budget being balanced during the Clinton years and attack Bush for his profligate spending, right? Yet, despite the fact that Obama is running an unsustainable deficit so large that it threatens the future of the country, liberals are perfectly fine with it.

    10) ...college campuses are supposed to be places of learning and intellectual openness, but they tacitly approve of conservative speakers being attacked and shouted down.

    11) ...they're gay-friendly even as they work to out gay Republicans and they often accuse the Republicans they hate the most of secretly being gay.

    12) ...they're the ones who are champions of free speech, but liberals want to silence their most effective critics on talk radio via the Fairness Doctrine.

    13) ...they're the ones who really want to stick to the Constitution. Yet, liberals buy into a "living Constitution," which is nothing more in practice than substituting your personal opinion for what's actually in the Constitution.

    14) ...it was terrible for George Bush to detain terrorists indefinitely, to use extraordinary rendition to send them to other nations, and to withhold more photos of what happened at Abu Ghraib -- but, when Obama did the exact same things, few liberals had anything to say about it.

    15) ...we have to move away from sources of energy like oil, coal, and nuclear power towards what they believe are more eco-friendly power sources like wind power. Yet, whenever anyone tries to build a wind turbine, it's almost always a liberal that attempts to stop it -- just as Ted Kennedy did because he was afraid his yachting view might be spoiled if the ideas he championed were put into practice.

    16) ...they're courageous for speaking out against Republicans while Hollywood and the media cheer them on, but when the time comes to speak out against the abuses of radical Muslims, they're terrified into silence.

    17) ...when someone despises America, we need to ask, "What have we done to make him hate us?" -- but, when someone despises liberals for what they're doing to the country, they conclude that person must be ignorant, bigoted, or evil.

    18) ...it's morally abhorrent to put a serial killer to death, but that a mother killing her baby via abortion is merely a "choice."

    19) ...we have to count every vote, except for members of the military serving overseas, most of whom are denied their right to vote because Democratic politicians deliberately delay in sending out their ballots until it's too late for them to be returned in time.

    20) ...when they looked at information from our intelligence agencies and concluded that Saddam Hussein had WMDs, they were just mistaken -- but when George Bush looked at the same info and drew the same conclusion, he was lying.
     
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    So you shit on people's of religion who hold marriage sacred, but not atheists and homosexuals who hold it sacred as well? Or are now suggesting that gays don't see anything sacred about marriage, they just want the rights that come with it? If the latter, then we can dispense with calling it marriage between gays, let's call it something else. Seems your agenda is more about pissing off and denigrating religion as anything else. You are an atheist, correct?
     
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    What's the problem with the same sex having union's leave the Marrage's for man and woman. Oh I forgot you want the same govermental right's as a man and woman. I SAY NO, and really this is what it is all about isn't it?

    Where does it stop next thing you know people will be marring animal's and saying beastiallity isn't wrong.

    Keep it at Civil union's.
     
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    It seems the gays want more than equal rights, they want everyone to see them as equal "in every way" and acknowledge that their sexual orientation is as normal as heterosexual. In effect, they want equal rights AND equal thoughts.
     
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    i'm sure that some do see marriage as religious, but ur trying to force your religious beiefs to hold them back from something they should have. i believe that most of the 18k gay marriages that happened in cali that are still being held legal were from a JOP, right? last time i checked, gay christians and hetero christians pray to the same guy and read the same book. i also thought that god created man in his image? if thats the fact, then god is at least a little gay since he created gay people, right? and wasnt the bible written by man, the sinner, and "translated" many years later? who's to say that the transcription wasnt also done by a free-marriage-a-phobic? there's too much heresay and gaps/lapses for that book to be held exactly how it is written today. if i get my hands on an original copy of the texts AND learn to read aramaeic/latin/arabic or whatever the original was scribed in AND it says gay people cant marry, then i'll believe that religion is against it. too many "christians" boning gay guys, diddling kids, drug obsessed, and all for them to actually be take serious to deliver the "word"
     
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    animals are a completely different species....from what i remember in biology, all humans are the same. the beastiality reference means you think that gays are no better than a horse or dog. same thing was thought about black people not too long ago, huh?
     
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    This thread is still alive? :annoyed:

    If the state participates in marriage, then marriage cannot exclude. The government cannot create separate classes of people.

    The fundamentalists can go on believing their marriage is blessed by holy powers, but where legality is concerned the state has to recognize all marriages or it has to recognize none of them.
     
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    let some priest kill someone "accidentally" in an exorcism and see if they dont get the long dick of the law brougt upon them. that would tell me that on this country/this earth, mans laws overrule
     
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    It's easy to take any passage out of the Bible and twist it to your means. You continue to focus on religion as the reason I object. As I have stated over and over again, I only abject to calling gay unions anything that is the same as the relationship my wife and I have. Why is that so hard to understand? You clearly have some problem with religion....get over it. This is not a religious issue with me. You ascribe sins of some to all Christians. This is insane. Of course religious people sin! You don't? You're an aethiest, correct?
     
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    One man's sins should never be another man's excuse. You constantly use the sins and misdeads of others to justify your position, as if you never sin yourself. This is a common tactic of atheists and those who wish to drag everyone else down to their level of disbelief.
     
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    The bottom line is this: If you hate gay marriage because it goes against your religion because you think that Jesus or the flying spaghetti monster will hate your guts if you entertained the notion of being ok with it, then that's fine. I don't care. But you can't pass laws based purely on religious mortality nor should religion be used as THE reason against passing a law because religion is not used by the US government to make decisions. Religion has nothing to do with this argument. That's about as simple as it can get.
     
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    I totally agree!!!!! Can you dislike gay marriage based on any other reason then? Is it a purely righteous thing that is beyond all debate and doubt?
     
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