Idaho BS thread in the PNW

thats what i mean, we dont have many mid range trucks that wheel like you do. Its all stuff you need a beater, solid axle, and 35s at an absolute minimum

 

I keep up on a pretty, IFS, 33's rig haha I can't do every obstacle though... and my rear bumper isn't too far off from stock

 

Thank god. Anything other then an ARB..look horrible on your year of truck

 

Saying mine doesn't function?? or any other type of bumper??

I think i have the form over fuction thing down..have you seen my build man IDAF half the time. just sorta works. I mean..my roof rack..does NOT flow haha

But an ARB on an 01-04..looks bad. My opinion..but still think they are better options that provide just as good if not better protection..

 

well..hopefully you avoid that.

 

if you hit anything hard enough the bumper (i don't care who it's from) will bend or break. I've had to straiten mine twice now and add a little support with plans to add more when i sas.

 

I don't buy the ARB is safer argument. Look at the way Monte's grill hoop is angled. It's going to help deflect deer under the rig just the same as an ARB. Unless of the animal is really tall like a moose in which case it is going over no matter what bumper you have.

My bumper has such a steep angle that it is likely going to help deflect animals down as well, just depends on how tall the animals are again.

Sure there are some bumpers out there that are so bulky they might take the legs out from a deer so much sooner thab ln they hit the deers body that they roll the deer upwards and over the hood, but I think thay is likely a minimal case.

 

I just see buzz killington's chin when I see arbs

 

He's referring to hitting a deer and passenger safety.

 

lets just take a minute and pull your heads out of eachothers ass's. The bumper is going on for 2 reason clearance and rock protection. NOT dear protection..

 

On another note I plan on being big enough after i sas that i could hit anything and it's going under.. So at that point im really not scared.

 

These will help with that

Pretty sure that a bumper isn't going to be enough protection against a deer, sure it might be better than nothing, but you're probably still going to have a messed up front end.

I read a story on here somewhere of a guy that had hit a few deer with a plate bumper (I don't think it was a Tacoma) and they had said hitting them wasn't too bad if you bounced the deer to the side, but every time one was sent under the vehicle is when it would destroy stuff.

I was under the opinion that you wanted it just for passenger protection.

 

so..why aren't you getting a bumper if you are so worried about hitting dear???

 

Not much else going on in here

 

I don't think I mentioned anything about a twin stick case in that post. In fact I had just an FJ Case and crawler that wasn't twined first then twined the FJ case.



Now if you wanna doubt me about the strength of the FJ case compaired to the geared case or the lefty, you'll be out of your mind. That geared case can't hold a candle to the FJ Case for strength. Not even the beefed up case's from Marlin and inchworm. The case themselves start to break where the FJ case wont. They are super thin unless you use the big case from Advance Adapters and then build your case from there. But then you still have to build it up with all the Marlin goodies to get it as strong as the FJ case is. Plus, the FJ is a ton cheaper than the lefty or the beefed up geared case and if you want to have the flexability with a crawler you have to add that price in the equation.
I've looked at all the options and witnessed them first hand as well. Your not beating the Marlin Crawler Taco box and FJ Cruiser T Case combination for strength and flexability unless you go to the Atlas four speed and I've seen a number of those blow up under these trucks and FJ's as well.

 

Yeah, his math is way off unless he is talking about triple case's wich is a total waste of money and effort. Even Marlin says so and he has triple case's

 

Seen the atlas explode under two FJ's and a 2nd Taco before. Not impressed with them really. I would go Stak if I were to go with anything else beside thwe FJ Case.

 

Now Thats the ticket. I've looked at Portals before too and still have not ruled them out. Those with a crawler..... Killer!!!

 

Sorry, didn't mean to come across as doubting you. As soon as you said the lefty was weaker, the idea went way out the window (not that it was really in the window to begin with haha).

How does the Taco case compare to the FJ case in terms of strength? I understand some of the other differences already, like about the shift rails not being split on the Taco case and such (I followed that thread several months ago about the guy arguing that you could twin stick the oem taco case and listed a way or two to do it, upon which you went into detail about why none of those ways would work. haha. Was quite comical)

The strength is more what I am interested in. Mostly I just see people go to the FJ case just to get the twin stick and I don't see the point in dropping about $1K on a tcase just for twin sticks, when you already have a working, pretty much equivalent (as far as I know, and minus the split shift rails) tcase in your Tacoma. The 2nd reason people get an fj case is the reliability of a hand shift instead of an actuator, well Taco cases can run a single stick, I've seen a few of them on here, in fact I think I recall you doing one.

So basically the two main reasons I see people get fj cases are more or less met with the Taco tcase, or at least not worth the extra $1Kish that FJ cases are going for.