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CHRISTOPHER DORNER BEING PURSUED ON 4WD TRAIL IN BIG BEAR!

Discussion in 'Southern California' started by The Traveler, Feb 12, 2013.

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  1. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:21 PM
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  2. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM
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    x2. They had to have entered the house. Which would mean they would know of the body. (To everyone freaking out, <---- is according to this video)

    This is from the liveleak vid:

    "hey steve.. uhhh ive got guys seeing something camouflage underneath that door that he got out from it? (cant quite tell)"

    New guy: "ive got about 2 or 3 trash bags right here. thats all i can see right now. the blood splatter is in the far corner. uhh a couple mattresses laying up against the bed."

    "okay far corner, give me numbered sides, what corner?"

    "straight across from the one-four corner"

    "I, I think you're meaning the one-two corner. You're on the one, so to the left would be the street side would be two do you mean that corner?"

    "yeah true"

    "copy"

    "alright steve were go a, were a go with the plan with the burn"

    "copy"

    "I want it uhhh.... like we talked about"
     
  3. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:26 PM
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    ^ I think this is the most likely situation. They killed him, did a quick search of the house, left, and burned the house down.

    I heard them interview the guy who got car jacked on the radio. he said the police dont want him to disclose certain details. When the radio host asked him what Dorner was carrying, he said the police didnt want him to say what Dorner had on him.

    Then they burn the house down. It seems like Dorner had something on him that they wanted destroyed.
     
  4. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:26 PM
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    I didn't get that impression from any news source. I haven't seen a single claim of the police agencies saying he lit the fire. They just haven't confirmed/denied yet how it started. They seem to kinda claiming ignorance at this point.
     
  5. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:27 PM
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    I hear it too...... damn what is going on!
     
  6. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:28 PM
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    They said they were using an armored vehicle of some kind to pull down walls. They may have had someone from outside, using optics to see the interior of the house once walls were removed.
     
  7. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM
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    Some of this Some of that
    I see nothing wrong with their procedure
     
  8. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM
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    ...too much shit to list.
    Most houses have windows...just saying.
     
  9. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:30 PM
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    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/manhunt-standoff-ended-dorner-threat-sources-say.html
     
  10. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:32 PM
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    Yes I realize that..... Let me change my they had to have been in the house to it sure sounds like they were in the house, or like he pointed out, had eyes in the house.
     
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    ^ this. Im pretty sure they were describing the outside of the house. They did say be ready in the back for him to excape cause the fire was in the front.
     
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    Aaron, I listened to the same interview. My thought on the fact that he did not disclose what he was carrying as the officers requested, was that he had no big weapons. The statement that he has suppressed weapons makes that even more fishy. I'm betting he only had a pistol.

    And the rest goes like you say.
     
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    If they cant disclose their sources on this, they are not credible. The information and timelines right now are kind of hear say... Kind of like how an hour ago, "they found the body"... "oh wait... nevermind"...


    This was NOT an assassination, and arson; assisted by local, state, and federal resources, to silence Dorner and cover up some alleged misconduct for the LAPD.
     
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    So, Do you guys think that the blood splatter we are hearing is dorner's blood?
     
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    I'm not hearing it. The sound quality is too poor. The only thing I can make out clearly is when the guy yells out "Burning Gas, Burning Gas." I definitely think it's NOT "burn it down."

    Everyone's comments remind me of the backward masking controversy where someone tells you what it says and your mind picks that up.
    http://jeffmilner.com/index.php/2010/10/20/michael-shermer-the-pattern-behind-self-deception/
     
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    If the blood is his then that would explain why he didn't run from the burning building
     
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    you guys are like sherlock holmes
     
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    Their method is efficient and effective as a form of execution. If you are saying this method is appropriate with dealing with a suspect hiding in a house, then where is the line drawn?

    If they come for me because I have "illegal assault weapons" and I hide in my bedroom, will they burn my house down too?

    I just want to confirm the police "tactic" so I know what to expect going forward.
     
  20. Feb 12, 2013 at 9:54 PM
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    Blood spatter would be completely and totally dependent on the caliber, distance, where it enters the body. Blood spatter is a pretty intricate science; one that I'm not particularly well versed on, but I know it would not have to be point blank.

    It might not even have been blood spatter. If they were at a distance, using a scope or binoculars to see, it could've been a spot where he was leaning against a wall and bleeding. You wouldn't be able to tell.
     
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