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Baja Beach 4WD: 32 psi to 15 psi, see the difference!

Discussion in 'Off-Roading & Trails' started by David K, Jul 24, 2010.

  1. Sep 30, 2012 at 7:05 PM
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    Everyone that I been on the trail with who has LT all air down, I guess its just something that is universal being in SoCal ..who knows
     
  2. Oct 5, 2012 at 8:10 AM
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    Will be shopping for tires by the summer... I really liked the Hankook Dynapros, but they are getting thin by 30,000 miles... Thinking of trying them in an LT version vs the P Rated I know have? Also thinking of Falken Wild Peak to try... The new Toyo Open Country AT II also look and sound good... Obviously, the cost is an issue...

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    The generals are great and i like em, but keep this in mind. They are a very heavy tire with a thicker then usual sidewall. My gas milage decreased considerably and I have to air them down to 10 psi just have proper sidewall flex. And that's with having full armor, whench, tons of tools, equipment, and spare parts.

    A tire you should consider for an A/T tire is the Nitro terra grappler. Two of my buddies have ran them in the past with great results in all conditions
     
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    Ghaaah! I did not want to hear this. I'm about to put the Dynapro ATms on my truck. But I need them to last for close to 60,000 miles. I do over 35,000 miles a year and I can't afford to drop $700-$800 on tires every year...:(
     
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    I think i am am gonna go back to BFG Km2's. The last set of tires was the Toyo Open Country M/T. Great tire until they get about 1/2 worn. They are louder than hell and do not want to balance great. They also have severe chunking and cracking on them. Great street tire (new) but crummy off road.
     
  7. Mar 1, 2013 at 8:58 PM
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    Thanks for the input MonkeyProof and others! I think I won't go with the Grabbers, as looking cool isn't good enough for me.

    I love the Hankook Dynapros, but (like most tires on a Tacoma) I just don't get a lot of miles out of them (28,000 now)...I don't like running them without some meat on them, and they are still okay... maybe get 35,000? They are the cheaper P rated (as are the Rugged Trails that come with our truck)... maybe the LT style will give you more miles?

    On my past two, 4 door Tacomas, I have had got 35,000 miles out of Toyo Open Country ATs and the same with Cooper Discoverer ATRs... only 20,000 out of the stock BFG Rugged Trails (Fails) when they just keep getting flats... The most mileage was 45,000 out of Cooper STTs (noisy grave diggers)... expensive, good looking, but never again!

    The Falkens or New Toyo Open Country AT II or Hankooks again are where my head is at. My four wheeling is mostly sand, but I do rock and steep climbs, some mud and snow too... so an All Terrain tire that is quiet at highway speed is where I am looking. Price will be another issue... DuraTracs? hmmmm... ???
     
  8. Mar 2, 2013 at 10:41 AM
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    Yes indeed... the tires I mentioned above, I have run on my '05 and '10 Tacomas. My '01 had BFGs (Rugged Trails) before I tried the Pep Boys Dakota AT tires (only $85 then)... they were fine to about 25,000 miles when the tread was too thin. However, they were a 50,000 mile tire, so I kept getting new ones for almost half price ($50).

    Now, I do run the tires at the recommended pressure or higher, based on the chalk test... so, I am not sure how others get more miles on the same tires, unless they run until they are bald or maybe highways in other states are not as hard on tire wear?
     
  9. Mar 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM
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    Lots of people get significantly better mileage out of those tires than you are .. any clue as to why?

    I've got 25k 'ish on my Dynapros and they still look new to me. Obviously some wear but I don't see any issues getting 45-50. I do plenty of "mild" off-roading. Snow, lots of gravel, and lots of highway.

    A buddy of mine only runs the Toyo AT and get 45-50 every set. They're not bald when he gets rid of them.

    Could the sand eat these up that much faster?
     
  10. Mar 2, 2013 at 11:04 AM
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    Well, as I said... there is still tread on mine... I just like not getting flats, and once there is less than 1/4" of tread depth, I want new tires... I am at 1/4" now at 28,000 miles... I have been running them at 35 psi (tire is a 44 psi max rating) for most of their life... I started at 40 psi, but dropped it when the chalk test showed a slightly greater wear in the middle.
     
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    I understood you still have tread left. My statement was based on people that also still have tread left when they get new tires. Using some simple math your tread would be bald at 37k. Well short of others.

    I've got 25ish on mine and they are nowhere near half gone, I still have 70% tread left. The Toyo's I've seen have 1/4" left around 40-45.

    I was just wondering what's up with the bad wear your seeing.
     
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    Its normal for the hankooks, I went through 3 sets of the M/T's averaging 15-18k a year before the tread became less then 1/4% from new. Great tires as far as all around performance goes but It became expensive buying a set of tires every year.

    I am also a service tech at a ford dealership, many of the models come from the factory with hankooks. We are always replacing the hankooks faster from normal wear when compared to the other brands like Continental, Perille, and GoodYear that ford also uses.
     
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    What do you think of LTs vs. P rated for mileage on Dynapro ATM Hankooks?
     
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    They 'looked new' until just recently. After 25k miles they seemed to wear faster. I checkes the pressure on all 4... holding at 34 in front and 34.5 in back. I think these have been the most impressive tire except for wear.
     
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    I don't think there would be a difference between the two as far as tread life, I think the difference would be in the sidewall thickness only.
     
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    So, a more expensive LT tire will not last longer than a P tire? An LT is only for heavy load carrying? Really?
     
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    I might find myself in the same boat then. I'm right about that 25k mark and I was pretty amazed the other day when I did my first major hand wash and polish after winter and the tires still looked almost new.

    I also run mine at 34-35.
     
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    I am at 28,000 miles and the tires are still safe, but the min. depth of the tread is at 1/4".


    Nice photo on the beach... where is that?

    Here is mine (with BFGs, in 2010)...

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    On Shell Island, 20 miles south of San Felipe, Baja CA Mexico.

    Back, but with Hankook's, in 2011:

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    Yes, I did, at 20,000 miles... These Hankooks are 8,000 miles older and are still better than those cheap made BFGs.

    P over LT because of money... I didn't want to pay more than $140/ tire. Now, I think I will need to spend closer to $200/ tire for higher quality?

    The Hankook Dynaprp ATM tread pattern was dynamite... on all surfaces, but specially impressed on mud and snow, as it isn't a mud terrain tire tread. Yet, not at all noisy. I would rate it as a a quiet highway tire.
     
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    Generally speaking, I think it's somewhat of a myth that with LT tires you will suffer less tire punctures. Yes they have more layers of rubber, but it really doesn't matter. If you run over a nail, it's going to go into the tire and make a hole. In 2011, my one month old LT 265/75/R16 "Load Range C" Durtracs (6-ply) suffered a puncture right through the thickest rubber lug of the tire while I was off-road no less. I spoke to the tire shop guys and they said it doesn't matter if you use load range F, run over sharp things, it's going to make a hole!

    About a year later I suffered another puncture while driving in the city, some piece of aluminum went through the shoulder. Had to purchase a new tire because they will not repair it. I repaired it myself and now its a trail spare.

    I also spoke to a regional tire distributor in my area and I was told that LT and P rated tires all have 3-ply sidewalls. Only the tire mating surface has more layers. Load Range C = 6 ply, D = 8 ply, E = 10 Ply, F = 12 ply. That being said, the LT tires are of more sturdy construction, they have to be, to support the higher loads and greater PSI ratings.

    In the end, I think LT load range C is probably the best for the Tacoma, it seems like a good balance of toughness, and not too much heavier over the factory tire. I think the Duratracs are 10lb heavier each than the rugged trail factory tires.

    haha I found my post of the other puncture.

     
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