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P vs LT rated tires?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by freesample, Feb 19, 2009.

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P or LT rated tires.

  1. P

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  2. LT

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  1. Jan 14, 2013 at 2:08 PM
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    i went from the 265/70R16 rugged fails to LT265/75R16 load E nittos terra and i like the ride much much more than i did when i had the rugged fails. only thing i would change is go down to D load rang, but when i got tires it was going to take a few weeks for discount to get load D so i went with load E.
     
  2. Jan 22, 2013 at 6:26 PM
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    Kumho road venture satkl6. Kind of a weird street friendly tire with great traction
     
  3. Jan 29, 2013 at 3:26 PM
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    How many miles you got on them and how is tread wearing. Those were on my list for Sequoia but ended up pony'n the cash for LTX.
     
  4. Mar 15, 2013 at 8:32 AM
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    I put on P rated Hankook ATM 265/75r16's in January. Performed awesome in the snow, road noise is nominal, and fuel is much better (but i am coming from 33" M/T's) so it is night and day. I spend 90% of time on road so LT wasn't really necessary for me.
     
  5. Mar 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM
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    P rated tires? Why even have a truck then? P rated tires are for cars.
     
  6. Mar 15, 2013 at 9:20 AM
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    Because most LT rated tires are rated (when multiplied by all four tires) for more than twice the amount of the gross vehicle weight rating of the Tacoma. I.e. overkill in most situations.
     
  7. Mar 15, 2013 at 9:49 AM
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    If all you do is drive on road and tow... I guess I could see it. If you drive off road at ALL the LT is pretty much a necessity. Air down a P rated tire and drive in sharp rocks you get a flat. Drive at speed and hit a rock... blow a sidewall. Been there done that.
     
  8. Mar 15, 2013 at 12:31 PM
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    E rated. I like them overall. Unless I need to air down... Then they aren't very helpful
     
  9. Mar 16, 2013 at 12:39 PM
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    I can honestly tell you that if you run graded dirt desert (Baja) road which are covered with sharp, volcanic rocks, you WILL get flats, even on fairly new tires IF you don't air down. I was stubborn and ran at 32 psi on the Rugged Trails that come on our truck or 35-38 psi on the higher pressure rated Hankook Dynapros... and put two flats in the Rugged Trails (13,000 and 19,000 miles on them) and one flat on the Hankooks at about 12,000 miles.

    SO, by all means, drop the pressure on your stock or P metric tires to approx. 20 psi for running gravel/ graded roads... less flats, more traction... LT tires may need to be at a different pressure, but approx. 2/3 of the normal highway pressure you run. Deep sand driving will require more air to be removed and down to 1/2 or even 1/3 of the normal highway pressure.
     
  10. Mar 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM
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    Ill give my 2 cents here as I have just gone through switching. This is just my opinion.

    Was running 265/70/17 Duratrac 10 ply E load and I tow a 5k trailer twice a month for 200km's. I have a 3" OME lift and air bag installed on the back end. When I was not hauling the ride was terrible. I found the tires to have terrible dry pavement grip and every bump was harsh.

    I switched to General Grabber AT2's in a P tire with a load rating of 112. Dry payment grip is way better as is ride quality. I picked up my trailer to de-winterize and it felt no different then the E load tires, if anything I actually think my truck feels like it has more power then previously.

    Personally for my use I will not move back to a E load tire as I feel the Tacoma is just to light of a truck, If i was towing a 10,000 trailer in a 3500 then I would look to E loads.
     
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  11. Mar 24, 2013 at 7:15 AM
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    ^ Exactly. Some of you guys who say why even drive a truck in a p rated tire seamed to forget that truck is produces a whopping 190 HP from a V6 engine, and that the P tated tire that comes with it actually rated to haul more than what our little puny trucks are capable of. I have P rated Michelin LTX AT2s because the majority of the time (90%) commute in the truck, but needed the extra space and something capable of pulling a boat, but I drive these tires on nothing but limestone and granite and various other rocks on a WEEKLY basis and have yet to pop a tire. So to make a statement as like you should of bought a car because now that you run p rated tires you won't be capable of doing anything in the truck is compelety IGNORANT. Did I also mention that the boat fully loaded is in excess of 6,000 lbs? We're not driving F250s or Quad cab Dodges with goosenecks towing double axel 12,000 plus trailers, just because you don't have or run an E rated tire doesn't mean you can't use your truck for what it was designed for. Plain and simple.
     
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  12. Mar 24, 2013 at 7:25 AM
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    After wearing out the stock tires, I switched over to load C LT. While the ride certainly stiffened a touch, I am in no way regretful. This said, I would be very hesitant to push up to a D or E simply for the weight. It would be nice to see more aggresesive tire options in a Load C or P rated tire.
     
  13. Mar 24, 2013 at 4:19 PM
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    your sig was the only thing that caught my eye in this thread. :D
     
  14. Apr 30, 2013 at 10:38 PM
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    sarcasm ?

    used to drop muh "E" load 33's down to 8-10 psi
    made for a smoother ride :cool:
     
  15. May 8, 2013 at 6:54 PM
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    My Hankook P Rated Dynapros now have about 30,000 miles on them and while the performance was excellent (highway quiet, mud, snow, sand and desert driving), the tread life is less than I would like and will get new tires soon. I am thinking of trying the same tire but in an LT to see if I get more miles out of them...? I am also looking at other brands... but the Hankook Dynapro was great, other than low mileage life in the P rated model.
     
  16. May 9, 2013 at 4:28 AM
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    My guess would be even less with the LT. If you look at the tires that give a mileage warranty, you'll see all the LT's are excluded.
     
  17. May 9, 2013 at 2:48 PM
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  18. May 10, 2013 at 10:37 PM
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    LT tires have more rubber (deeper tread) than their P rated brothers, at least on some... To me, more rubber = more miles per tire.

    I had Cooper Discoverer STT tires (LT) and they lasted me the longest (40,000 miles)... I was glad to get rid of them as they were so loud on the highway and were terrible in sand (grave diggers). I replaced them with Toyo Open Country ATs, got 35,000 miles out of them, and liked them a lot... quiet, good in sand... same story with Cooper Discoverer ATRs.
     
  19. May 15, 2013 at 7:28 AM
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    More Rubber also most likely means more heat build-up.

    On the other hand, the manufacturer's assumption is most likely that tires are used to some percentage of their load rating. If the assumption was that P vs. LT had the same usage it would probably be the same warranty (or more for LT).
     
  20. May 26, 2013 at 9:50 AM
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    ok just my 3 cents,with 6 off road rigs.For just rock crawling,Ok on tacoma Lt C .Look at load rating.My 4x4 Dodge has D rated 315-16s they have more load then other makes E rated tires My race truck older Toyota,has LT 12.50-35s C they are only 2 ply side wall load 2400 We run them for play riding 18 psi Off road only.My 12 toy Dc prerunner I just put Toyo P255/75/17 AT .Not all side wall plys are the same.As I have one Vw off road car with Good year wranglers AT dont like them side wall paper thin.Only 2 ply,but my Toyo 2 ply side wall are thick,or just right.Great on street also offroad.They have a load rating of 2535 more then my LT C on other truck,also since this new Toy does not have a whole lot of power,dont want a heavy tire.For me off roading almost every day here in Baja.Real bad roads,No paved roads even in town.P rated on tacoma olny way to go,for soft ride for me.I dont baby the truck off road.BTR
     

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