Auto vs Manual which one is stronger?

NICE! I hadn't compared them when we bought my wifes Tacoma. Another win for the Auto. Auto's really hit their MPG stride when everyone started going away from the 4 speed and into the 5, 6, 7, and now 8 speed Autos

 

No...I'm far enough away from DC that I don't have to like my bean eating brothers...

Manual...

 

Really autos can do burnouts easier. Powerbraking. Especially if you have a linelock for your brakes.

 

meh, dumping the clutch no breaking involved, that said still need enough power to do either.

 

this is because of the final drive ratio. if they were geared the same
the manual would rate higher. I am a big fan of Toyota automatics...makes life easier when
the Taco (or 4runner) is creeping in 4lo and hauling delicate stuff over bony roads

 

That's just with the V6 I believe. My 4 banger manual was rated higher than the same truck with the auto if I remember correct. I loved the auto in the V6 though when I test drove it, if I had a V6 it would be an auto no doubt.

 

I do believe you are correct!

 

Our V6's can be a little slacking on the power side to do much a of burnout unless you red line when you drop the clutch then you might light one tire up for a ways if you don't blow something up when you do that.

 

I also disagree with this. If it were that easy I'm sure Toyota would have done it because they are driven so hard by the gevernment to maintain high mpg ratings. My guess is that the torque multiplication effect from the torque converter unlocking allows the auto to make enough torque to be able to use the higher gear ratio. I imagine if the manual had the same final drive as the auto, you would either have to give it so much more throttle to maintain speed that you lose fuel economy anyway or you would just drive in fifth gear every where because 6th didn't make enough torque thus losing fuel economy and making 6th gear useless.

Kind of like when I went to 33" tires. 5th gear (overdrive for me) couldn't make enough torque to keep me going at 75mph so it would spend a lot of time in 4th gear instead. Once I regeared the extra torque from the gears and higher RPM allows my tranny to almost never shift out of 5th gear and even though I am running at 700-800 rpm higher at 75mph I didn't even lose a whole mpg, it was almost completely unaffected.

 

America!

 

Manuel is stronker

 

Where's oz-t????

 

you dont even know^. Maybe you should just go buy Engage Kit

 

Redline, dump clutch, add brakes, smoke tires for days, drop panties

 

Add brakes, add throttle, smoke tires for days, drops panties with the added bonus of no shock damage to anything from dropping the clutch

 

I did brake stands this way in my ae86 all the time, never hurt anything. I will agree its hard on it though.

 

With a smooth surface and water you can dump it at 2k in 1st and start burning rubber from there

 

False. The 4.0 transmission is the same as the V8 Runner.

 

He said redline though

And I have reason to believe it is pretty much the same tranny on the 4.6L V8 2nd Gen Tundras too. They just added a 6th gear to it. Hard to say what else they may have changed about it to though.