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NOOBS!! 2 Lost Hikers in Holy Jim

Discussion in 'Southern California' started by The Traveler, Apr 1, 2013.

  1. Apr 2, 2013 at 6:27 PM
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    WhatThePho?

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    Did they find the hikers? I've hiked this place at 2 am before very hard to get lost....
     
  2. Apr 2, 2013 at 6:32 PM
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    I wonder if they made it to Santiago peak. That's the trail you guys should go to.
    And people don't carry any emergency gear anymore? When I hike I bring a lot of stuff. Flares. Firestarter. Emergency blanket. Extra water plus a bladder. Light. Spare batteries. And a spare light with more batteries. And common sense...
     
  3. Apr 2, 2013 at 11:26 PM
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    Dang, I guess I was wrong. I thought for sure these guys were going to come out and go "April Fools" (they may yet if they realize they f'd up BAD..) or would have been found given the amount of manpower looking for them.

    Looking at the area, there are really only two survival choices, stay or go. I'm guessing they went at some point and are now stuck somewhere and immobile by choice or circumstance. People are looking on and near the driving and hiking trails, but if it were me and I panic'd I would have either tried to get up on a ridge line for visibility, (helicopters haven't seen them.. soooo...) or gone down to a supply of water. At least there they could survive and would lessen their sun exposure. Plus if you are injured, you can usually crawl DOWNHILL to water. I broke my leg once in the middle of the night on roller blades and crawled almost a mile home. I wouldn't recommend it, but it can be done.
     
  4. Apr 3, 2013 at 1:37 AM
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    Coming to you from my cell phone in Holy Jim Canyon.

    Tonight, myself and 3 other TW members led a search party of 12 people through the surrounding canyons. I'm base station, waiting with the trucks while 11 others are out searching in the middle of the night with backpacks full of gear.

    We have cell phone communication, which is good, but it's patchy. We're going off a lead that an earlier search party of Jeeps and Land Rovers led, saying they heard a female voice yelling faintly from the bottom of a canyon while they were searching from atop the ridge. They could not reach them, so instead, our party is heading up the canyon from the bottom up.

    Still waiting for the rest of the team to get back to base.

    As of now, no signs of them yet...but man is it tough out here. Will report back with details as they arrive.

    Traveler, BeeRadd, Krans, and WhatThePho.
     
  5. Apr 3, 2013 at 1:43 AM
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    Good luck guys! Keep us posted! Would be there too if I could.
     
  6. Apr 3, 2013 at 2:01 AM
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    Thanks gents.

    We're following leads from law enforcement, search and rescue, and amateur search parties. The area isn't huge, but the problem is the FLIR cams aren't picking up any signatures other than wildlife. The area is heavily brushed, and full of "finger" canyons.

    The good news is that the temps aren't too bad, bad news is that they are not properly clothed. They were wearing tank tops and shorts with running shoes. That can get very cold.

    Doing our best, just got a call from Brad saying they reached a point where they couldn't go any further up, and it's very difficult for them to turn around and repel down some rock faces. They have climbing rope with experienced climbers, GPS's, and plenty of water but I'm not sure how long they'll be. Sounds like their only a mile or so away from base station where I am.

    Determined to be at work tomorrow morning so they better be back soon.
     
  7. Apr 3, 2013 at 4:10 AM
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    Just got home, 5.5 hours after our search began last night.

    Our efforts were, like many others out there the last few days, unsuccessful. We reached a point where it was practically impossible to keep going, and definitely impossible to come back down if we had carried on. The hike was very difficult, even with hundreds of dollars in climbing gear which was eventually forfeited to the canyon.

    I really do hope the two of them are alive, but it's hard to see it that way when absolutely no sign of them has been uncovered for over 48 hours. The choppers with FLIR cams were called off for maintenance and fuel, resuming their search at 4:00am PST. Aerial search has shown nothing but deer, but the Sheriff's dept and Search and Rescue teams are carrying on with them today.

    Best of luck to Nicholas and Kyndall. You have hundreds of concerned citizens and volunteers doing everything they can to bring you home safe. I spoke to Kyndall's mother yesterday, she was, of course, in tears the whole time. I hear she's doing better today, hopefully that spirit will ring on.

    Special thanks to Brad, Kenny, and Andre for making the trek out here from North County this late, although they all have obligations to attend early in the morning.

    Traveler OUT.
     
  8. Apr 3, 2013 at 4:28 AM
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    Wow, crazy. Hope they are found soon. Good for you OP for helping out in the search.
     
  9. Apr 3, 2013 at 4:30 AM
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    Aahhhh... Back story? :popcorn:
     
  10. Apr 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM
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    thats my boy lost up there and ive been there since Monday day and night waiting with both of their parents. We searched day and night with dozens of professional and non professional search and rescue teams and we found nothing and i mean absolutely nothing but weird and sketchy people living in those weird houses out there. I personal feel there was foul play and somebody cam in counter with them just due to the fact its really hard to get lost on that trail. in order to get lost you have to scale a a rugged steep mountain per say and for nick and the girl to climb that is out of the question just because we went in to all the trails until you cant go no more and a experience hiker tried scaling these mountains and said that it was hard and not capable of people who never went hiking before to due.i just want some closure already. time is ticking and being out there at night searching really puts it into perspective how crazy it is to be lost out there for even one night. this is all surreal and thank all of you whos coming out to help. we will find the truth to all of this. last thing is i hope somebody police in particular search INSIDE of these houses that are out there. so much tweakers and weirdos live out there and i just have a weird feeling of foul play.
     
  11. Apr 3, 2013 at 5:54 AM
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    Damn man, keep us updated.
     
  12. Apr 3, 2013 at 6:08 AM
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    I've been following this thread and want to give a huge thanks from 3,000 miles away to everyone who has donated their time and materials to look for these folks. It's crazy how a simple day hike in a non-hostile environment has the ability to turn into a life/death situation within the blink of an eye.

    I hope they are found safe and sound and wish everyone the best of luck in their searches.
     
  13. Apr 3, 2013 at 6:36 AM
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    does turning tires to black wall out count? How bout added snug top rebel.
    Keep thinking positive! You have a lot of people pulling for you, we all hope for the best! I can't imagine the worry and anxiousness you're going through, good luck, positive thoughts from me and my family!
     
  14. Apr 3, 2013 at 8:27 AM
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    There are a couple stories out there..ask rich91710 lol, he was a witness to one of them . but I won't bring anymore of it to this thread so it can stay on topic
     
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    Is this Ryan, by any chance?

    Keep your head up, bro. We're all doing everything we can.
     
  17. Apr 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM
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    The things required to pull bitches
    That trail that we took was definitely a semi difficult one. Most of it was vertical up hill on loose rocks, soft dirt and mud. Without help from a rope a few of us definitely would have gotten hurt.

    The guys we were with are also continuing today on the fire road and working their way to their last known location.
     
  18. Apr 3, 2013 at 9:07 AM
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    Any luck yet??
     
  19. Apr 3, 2013 at 9:13 AM
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    No luck yet. Ocsd started at 4 this morning. The group we were with last night is also out there. I'm thinking of going after work. But not sure yet, depends how I feel after work. I'm on 1.5 hours of sleep.
     
  20. Apr 3, 2013 at 9:15 AM
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    damn that sux :S.
     

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