Carry with a chambered round???

... ^^^ ... I disagree with this general statement ... this is not my thinking at all.

Many years ago ... I had to use a 1911 .45 on 2 occasions ... and it never had one in the tube prior to firing ... and in stressful situations too.

Right or wrong ... I do what feels comfortable ... and what has worked for me in the past ... to each his own.

 

Think of it always being hot, or don't carry. Leave it home if you're questioning yourself at all.

 

Damn it will yall stop posting

I keep meaning to keep up with the thread/topic but keep forgetting. I just recently got my first "real" firearm (9mm) and started carrying part time and dont always have one chambered but depending on where im going i will chamber one. Once i get ccw ill most likely always keep one chambered. But like i said depends on where i am/going

 

I would say that you were lucky in that you didn't need the extra moment or two that cycling the slide would have taken. KISS (keep it simple, stupid) or, "train like you fight" are the way to be prepared.

The more complicated you make it, the more chance of something going wrong.

 

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I was not debating the issue of ... "keeping a round in the chamber" ... your specific situation may dictate what you need to do ... I was disagreeing with the generalized statement that was previously made and reposted in red below.

Statement (post #247) that I disagreed with was: . . . . . . . . .

"Anyone who doesn't carry their gun with a round chambered is not mentally prepared to do what needs to be done if the time comes."

As to your view of me being "lucky" ... yes, I was very lucky on more than one occasion ... but part of "being lucky" is properly sizing up the situation(s) too.

In reading your previous posts ... I have not had the amount of "formalized small arms training" that you have, i.e. being an instructor, and etc.

All I can say is ... in my real life situation(s), in real time ... keeping the chamber clear served me well and I had no worries ("KISS") about putting a stray round in the aircraft and/or another person in the event of a crash and/or a stressful situation. (Same with a "no chambered round policy" in the on board shotgun.)

PS ... The guys who flew "slicks" made sure that the transported troops strictly adhered to the "lock & load" (no chambered round) policy ... and were only released just prior to landing in the LZs. The same polices were used on the landing crafts that made the beach landings with USMC BLT units too.
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I just got my CWP recently and I carry unchambered but I also don't carry/plan to carry very often. Chamber it or not, who gives a shit. Whatever fits your style. I've made it to age 42 without ever feeling the need to use a weapon on someone.

Whatever you do, be consistent.

 

Always chambered. But I carry a revolver.

 

And you don't have to remember to deactivate the safety... LOL

 

Yes and no.

Many revolvers have a key-activated safety!

 

The key is NOT a safety - it's a lock, to be used during storage, to prevent unauthorized persons (like kids) from firing the weapon. It was NEVER meant to be used as a safety. EVER.

 

I agree, but some gun owners aren't too smart.

 

yes I do. I really dont feel like giving any more time to the bad guy

 

I am a LEO, so I carry everyday locked and loaded (obviously). There are a few variables invovled that will effect draw and fire time: type of holster, clothing worn, manual safety on/off, etc., etc. Here is a study that may help you make an informed decision (Level 1 holster has almost ZERO retention features:

Facts To Live By​

0.23 seconds for a subject to pull a gun out of pants and fire
1.31 seconds for officer to respond and fire from level I Duty Holster
Lewinski Study​

Lastly, a gun without a bullet in the chamber is the same thing as the paperweight on my desk. A paperweight.

 

Bingo.

This is where all of the range practice and stress practice and Tueller Drills fall short.

Drills are just that... drills. Just as with evacuation drills performed by aerospace manufacturers. The element of surprise is not there. The exact MOMENT of the attack is not known, but the "victim" still knows that it's going to happen.
Even as a LEO who is trained to expect the unexpected, you are going to take over a second to respond and draw.
Drawing from concealment is even worse.


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If you were a crook and drawing against this LEO ...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOfr6hU5fic

I would guess that he keeps 1 in the chamber ...
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Most likely, he doesn't. Single action revolvers like the ones he's wearing (Colt Single Action Army; AKA Peacemaker; AKA SAA) are only safe to carry with the hammer down over an EMPTY chamber, unless the revolver in question is of a modern design, incorporating a transfer bar.

You'll notice that he cocks the hammer before firing... that advances a LOADED chamber in line with the hammer/barrel. If all six chambers were loaded the firing pin (integral with hammer) can easily contact the primer with enough force to discharge the round.

 

No for a few reasons:
1: I'm only 18 so I can only carry on private property w/ permission (It's a heck of a lot less likely it would ever see use)
2: It's a Glock...no safety.
3: I can rack the slide very quickly.

 

Didn't gun fighters keep a $5 bill in the empty chamber, to pay for their burial?

 

So a gallon of diesel today is as expensive as a funeral back in the day?

 

You could get a shave and a haircut for $0.25
1908, a new car was $200-$400.