1st scheduled service and they turned my rotors?

Hmmm, I've got a 2011 TRD OR Prerunner...the TX Pro edition...After suspension and armor...my next mods are brakes lol...might just get those and change them while I'm under the truck changing the suspension too lol!

 

My rotors were warped around this as well and recently at my first brake pad change (80k) I didnt have any lurching stops anymore. Anyhow, I bought brembo rotors on Amazon for $40 each and that's what I'm running now.

 

I forgot about the brake differences between TRD Sport, Off road and SR5. I have the TRD-OR also so maybe that's why I feel my brakes are more than adequate.

 

I do too, but I don't think they are adequate.

 

Toyota is rife with TSB's and recalls these days. Not saying I didn't buy the leading midsize truck lol, because I did and I love my truck...just saying...I got the TSB done on my leafs, because putting a 500 lb motorcycle in the back of my truck that supposedly can support 1000lbs and I'm suddenly riding bump stops everywhere forced me to contact the dealer and find out I'm missing a leaf. A year and a half later and I'm riding bumpstops again and my leafs are flat...dealer straight up tells me that Toyota will not warranty them again. Written on my service order...-"known factory defect" that the leafs do not support the posted weight and that they go bad with alot of use...I go camping alot and often have 4 girls in the car plus all their crap (wife and 3 sisters lol) in the bed...so leafs went bad pretty quick.

I know we're super side tracking from the OP...just want to point out that the dealers these days are pretty useless unless something majorly fails. So if you're having issues with something, but your truck is still running...best bet is to probably go aftermarket for better.

 

^Dealer you trust, or a dealer that blames "design" in order to repeatedly get out of warranty work?

TRD OR 4x4s, because of ATRAC, has an electric brake pressure pump in lieu of the "pancake" vacuum booster. That may account for the difference in brake performance. I can panic-stop on the highway just fine: tires skid for a fraction of a second before ABS pulses 2x-3x.

In rush-hour traffic, drive with the shifter in 4 or 3 to get engine braking. The driving experience becomes a lot more comfortable. It also keeps the revs up, so you get better throttle response. I usually don't drive in "D" unless traffic allows for 60 mph consistently.

 

http://special-reports.pickuptrucks.com/2012/01/2012-midsize-shootout-results.html

Our judges were pretty clear from the beginning of the fuel economy run — the level of refinement in the ride and the overall interior were on a different playing field from the segment competitors. Probably the biggest standout performance was in brake testing, where the Tacoma stopped 10 to 15 feet shorter than the others.

http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/tacoma/2012/

In Edmunds brake testing, a Tacoma Double Cab came to a stop from 60 mph in a short 126 feet.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/autos/story/2012-01-18/midsize-pickup-truck-shootout/52650846/1

•Toyota Tacoma 4x4 V-6. The 2012 Tacoma got a new grille and rump and dressed-up interior. It accounted for 38% of midsize pickup sales last year, mostly without help from the updates, which came in the fall. Toyota plans a Baja version for serious off-roaders. In testing, Tacoma had the quickest-stopping brakes.

A CRV ... Really is this the comparison you are making? Really?

CRV curb weight 3,300 lbs
Tacoma 4x4 curb weight 4,160 lbs

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Back on topic Warped rotors are a myth pretty much. Most problems that are blamed on " warped rotors " are due to improper bedding of the brakes when new. Poor driving habits.

 

I look at rotors as wear parts...and usually end up changing them out at the first brake job...

My experience in turning warped rotors is that they usually just warp again, and they have become as cheap as decent pads.

At 35k the brakes in my Taco are still original, I will inspect next time I pull a wheel however.

I wouldn't worry too much on the issue, unless they warp again.

Howard

 

OOOOOOOoooooOoooooo you can quote statistics.


Lol I'm not gonna argue with trolls.

 

I'll take his statistics from reliable testing sources over biased opinion any day.

 

Eh, done with this thread, people like that could care less about personal experience, they'd rather throw out statistics and manufacturer numbers than believe that someone isn't happy with a known issue.

 

Verified data in a controlled situation is the only real way to properly test something. Just because you are not happy with the performance of something by you opinion, does not make it a poor design.

 

Dumb stupid stats.

 

Well, all I can say is, if these brakes are so amazing, then why is the dealer turning the OPs rotors at 5K?

 

Looks like a manufacturing error off the lot, not a design problem.

 

But they're so amazing, that can't be possible.

 

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Understandably sidetracking from OP, but you DO realize that dealerships have their hands tied, right? A dealership is a franchise, and are only authorized to do what the corporation of Toyota says. Any deviation from this becomes an expense directly out of the pocket of the owner, not Toyota, because they will deny a warranty claim if corporate says something is not to be repaired. They are far from useless, they are just limited in what they are allowed to do.

Back on track of the OP here, warped rotors are caused by either improper break-in as previously mentioned, or inadequate cooling. The vehicles in the north are more at risk of warpage due to temp extremes. You have a piece of metal that is heated to upwards of 500 degrees or more when stopping a vehicle, then you drive into some ice-slush and cool that metal almost instantly. this can EASILY cause a rotor to warp. It takes less than .010" of runout to cause a vibration when braking.

It is not uncommon at all to have a rotor machined under warranty more than once, and still be capable of stopping the vehicle exactly the same. The biggest issue with a rotor that has been machined too much is heat dissipation. If it can't dissipate the heat, then it increases the risk of warping again. Sure, it would be great if Toyota would build the Tacoma with full Brembo brake systems, or something equal/better. Of course then we would be paying even MORE for the trucks than is being paid now.

 

As my previous links show the Tacoma has some of the best brakes and shortest braking distances in its class. Validated by more than one source. Do you even have a source that shows they are not?
Post it.

What you meant to say or should have said is you almost killed yourself with your poor driving skills. As you were riding the brakes and going too fast they were probably overheated, ever hear of brake fade? Operator induced problem as admitted by you. I also do not believe that the dealer said that the Tacoma brakes are underpowered ... He never took advantage of you? He did when he told you this: " so honestly I know Toyota won't cover this under warranty until they pretty much fail and you wreck or something".

Comparing a CRV to a truck.

You shouldn't drive with your foot on the brake pedal. Over heated brakes do not work as well as not over heated brakes. ABS is supposed to allow you to steer into a clear lane instead of hitting the dbag.

Refute what I have posted with something factual. I'm open. Post a link or two to show me where "underpowered brakes" are a known issue with the Tacoma.

Bye! Reading your post most of your issues seem to be of your own making.

Oh and just to clear things up; I am not a troll. I just hate when false statements are passed off as fact. Sorry you disagree and are unhappy with your brakes. Maybe your wife will let you drive the CRV once in a while.

 

This is just a dumb statement. You are just trying to start shit now. Knock it off and open up to some more educated opinions than your own.

 

ABS sucks