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Idaho BS thread in the PNW

Discussion in 'North West' started by Jensonbt, Aug 28, 2011.

  1. Apr 21, 2013 at 6:42 PM
    IDtrucks

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    no, brady I know what a 50-100 foot jump feels like, and your truck did not do 50 much less anywhere near 100 lol. two vehicle lengths yes...how long do you think your truck is lol? if you have a wheel base of 130" thats 11 feet...so even if you had FIVE truck lengths you would be at 50...and no way in hell your tires were off the ground for 5 truck lengths. you would need far more height for that, which in turn would have demolished your suspension
     
  2. Apr 21, 2013 at 6:45 PM
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    Just fyi, I was going much slower in those pics. The pics were at the start of the day. The videos were from later when I was pretty much going as fast as I could possibly get going on them. I need boost to get better jumps in that spot or paddle tires to give me a better start.
     
  3. Apr 21, 2013 at 6:47 PM
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    Doesn't matter.

    What mark said. You wouldn't have suspension if you were doing even 50'. Something woulda broke.
     
  4. Apr 21, 2013 at 6:48 PM
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    your math is so fucked up, the DCLB wheel base is 140" which makes the wheel base 11.6' (which is what you said you were measuring). you were not even near 50 man. ill give you 2 1/2 truck lengths at most, which is a bit under 30. but thats it. and yes i know that your jump feels so much bigger in person than in reality.
     
  5. Apr 21, 2013 at 6:52 PM
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    I don't know how nothing has yet... My shocks were pretty warm after a few jumps though. I hit my bumps pretty damn hard everytime. One landing was so hard it actually turned my left blinker and windshield wipers on and I know it wasn't my hands that hit it. The sand was pretty soft today too. They couldn't hardly keep the dirtbikes upright in it. I couldn't hardly go anywhere in it in 2wd either. I would just dig down almost instantly. I think that is why I hard so much trouble with doing donuts. The top 2 feet or so was really soft compared to usual so I left huge trenches with my front tires when I tried to turn.
     
  6. Apr 21, 2013 at 6:56 PM
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    maybe...JUST MAYBE you should cool off on the jumping the truck loaded down with armor on on a generic lift and wait till you at least have some mid travel to land so hard it turns on your blinkers and windshield for you?
     
  7. Apr 21, 2013 at 6:57 PM
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    Full length not wheelbase. But yes I usually over estimate distances so you guys are probably right. I was basing it off of looking at the gaps in the tire patterns. Guess we should have measured them for reference. Next time.

    Speaking of next time. You should come down sometime Mark! haha Bring your dirtbike:D
     
  8. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:04 PM
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    if you are basing your estimates off of gaps in the tire patterns why would you be concerned with over all length?:rolleyes:

    and my friends want to make a few trips down to st anthony again this summer, hopefully I can convince them to take a stop at AF or where ever thats like. and yes i will bring the bike and you can speed check off me and see what it takes to jump 50 ft. and btw, it takes more than an OME 883 lift haha:cool:

    looking at the jump you were doing, provided there was some sort of a lip and an ok landing i would probably be pinning 4th off that thing lol. might get me 50.
     
  9. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:05 PM
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    I basically do have mid travel up front (I'm just missing the ext. travel shocks which only net me one more inch of travel). And as far as jumping is concerned with my rear, I might as well have mid-travel. I have 4-5" tall bumpstops that compress nicely (timbrens). No matter what mid-travel setup you have (unless you are running bypasses, which I think would be kind of stupid for just mid-travel) you are going to be into your bumpstops, that or your shocks are valved so aggressively that all you can do is jump it cuz it would ride rougher than shit on everything else.

    Sure it's not the ideal setup but I have logged some 30-40 jumps now with no damage. For now it will have to do til I can get full long travel setup.
     
  10. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:08 PM
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    mmm..i disagree. Even if you had the extended shocks..you couldn't use it without UCAs too. Thats like a total difference of 2 grand in parts man haha

    Thats like saying i have Mid travel too with that logic..and there is no way i or you do.
     
  11. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:09 PM
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    886's:rolleyes:


    Jump entry is fairly smooth and the landing is slightly uphill from the launch. I won't jump downhill. That makes me too nervous about breaking shit. haha
     
  12. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:12 PM
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    THIS IS NOT MID TRAVEL
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    if you have mid travel so does monte and silas, and me for that matter since we both have a AAL



    mid travel at least in the front basically requires a full coil over shock and upper control arms, and for the rear you need more than a TSB and a 1.5" AAL man. you need a full new leaf pack with high performance shocks. 5100s are certainly not mid travel. sorry to shit on your parade...






    but i love shitting on people'e parade
     
  13. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:13 PM
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    I have mid travel
     
  14. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:15 PM
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    wait so the jump looks like this?
    _________/------
    ____/-----

    so i would be landing flat or up hill. hmm thats sketch. landing on a downward slope is always better.
     
  15. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:21 PM
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    I do have UCA's though! That's my point! haha I know they are light racing UCA's but I read up a lot of spec sheets and they are suppose to have the same or close to the same range of motion as all of the top name uniball UCA's out there. That is why I decided to get them in the end, that and they were like half the price of the uniball models out there. Uniballs are just the cool thing so more people get them. At full droop my LBJ's are practically maxed out anyway, so even if my UBJ's had more travel I would just max out my LBJ's in less than another inch. So like I said before I pretty much can get like 1-2" more down travel if I get longer shocks, but other than that I would have to go to Long Travel to get any more. I measured 10" of travel with the coilover out, that was maxing out the BJ's to as full of a stuff as I could get. I know my bumps compress more than that though, because when I was at full stuff the tire was 1-2" from touching the top of the wheel well, but when I jump it, it rubs the tops of the wheel wells. Today the tires tore some of the plastic out of the top of the wheel wells even. Anyway my whole point of that is that with my jumping stuffed guesstimates and my current shocks slightly limiting my droop I have like 10" of travel and like 8-9" of that is usable cuz hitting the bumps sucks in whoops... Ext. travel shocks would give me maybe 10" of usable travel. Not worth the cost. Might as well wait and see what front LT kit I decide to go with and measure for shocks then.
     
  16. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:28 PM
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    Not exactly like that but sort of. Yes it is a flat landing. I prefer it. I don't have enough suspension to land a downhill. The farther you fall the harder you hit the ground. The shorter distance you fall the less down speed you pick up haha.

    And no I didn't mean I literally have mid-travel rear, I can't do whoops for shit... But no matter what midtravel setup you have I think you are eating bumpstops when jumping unless you have some very aggressively valved shocks. And if my rear has anything, it has fucking bumpstops! haha May not be as soft as hydro bumps but there are many/if any better rubber bumps out there for us.
     
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    Can I tell people I have mid travel too ?

    I have full OME and LR UCA's and Wheelers Superbumps
     
  18. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:30 PM
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    I would agree. You basically have the same front setup that I have, except I have 5100's and 886's while you have 885's and OME shocks. I have factory bumps up front though, not sure about you and we both have LR UCA's.
     
  19. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:31 PM
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    Wheelers Superbumps front and rear
     
  20. Apr 21, 2013 at 7:31 PM
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    well the only saving grace for that jump is the shallow take off, it would have to be a good solid touch down landing to not suck ass haha.

    and you have a good lift, not mid travel









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