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2005 tacoma 2nd gen terminal frame rot rust cancer

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by tacomeontherange, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. May 5, 2013 at 12:20 PM
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    Round II

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    Yep my 05 showing signs of the dreaded cancer in the same spot. Gonna try and do something aboot it tis summer.

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  2. May 5, 2013 at 2:42 PM
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  3. May 5, 2013 at 2:46 PM
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    Its actually a lot more solid than what the pic shows even though it is separating. As for "cut and replace time" thats the plan.
     
  4. May 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM
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    Wonder when Toyota is just going to give up and start pouring money into frame design and manufacture like water out of a jug.
     
  5. May 5, 2013 at 4:50 PM
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  6. May 5, 2013 at 7:41 PM
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    Its actually a lot more solid than what the pic shows even though it is separating. As for "cut and replace time" thats the plan.

    DoorDingGood luck. Your repair project might make a great DIY thread.



    Take it to toyota so it is documented. Last thing I would do is mod the frame and then have toyota deny any claim in the future.

    The OP got his frame replaced so why do you believe yours is not eligible?
     
  7. May 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM
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    I never said I did but just like others being denied for vibe issues because they either lifted or are running larger tires what do you think Toyota is going to say when they see I have cut a bunch of stuff off my frame? Plus My old man is a television repairman, he's got this ultimate set of tools. I can fix it.

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  8. May 5, 2013 at 11:27 PM
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    How U going to get inside the box ?
     
  9. May 6, 2013 at 12:04 AM
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    I know I am :deadhorse: but every time I walk by my boat with that bare unrusted galvanized steel trailer I cant help but think that is the solution. Toyota should at least make it an option. I would gladly pay and extra grand for a galvanized frame.
     
  10. May 6, 2013 at 12:13 AM
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  11. May 6, 2013 at 12:17 AM
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    Wow ! Didn't expect an answer this fast this time of night - Thanks. Did you try to clean out the box some how B 4 spraying ? I have a cheap Wagner spray gun that will mist - I guess I could just put the tip up to the holes and spray - better then doing nothing. Thanks for the reply.
     
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    Thanks. My bad - didn't see that U had a 2012. Thanks 4 the link.
     
  13. May 6, 2013 at 8:37 AM
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    point of clarification: our Taco was not a certified pre-owned vehicle. it was a used vehicle purchased from a toyota dealership.
     
  14. May 6, 2013 at 8:53 AM
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    You should go to Toyota about this. At least make a try. Your truck rusted in the same spot many others did so its no accident.
     
  15. Aug 2, 2013 at 9:58 AM
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    Just stumbled onto this thread and thought I'd crosspost what I had posted in another Toyota forum.

    I have a 2005 4X4 6cyl Access Cab that I bought new and has never been driven on the beach or outside of New England-New York. To give you an idea of the condition of the vehicle, I'm still on the original clutch after 233,000 miles.

    During a service visit in April, the dealership (in New Hampshire) flagged my frame as having rust issues.

    - There is no campaign for 2005 Toyota Tacoma frame issues.
    - If a dealership sees a potential frame issue, they will take photos of it and pass them on to the Field Rep.
    - If the Field Rep deems the photos of interest, an appointment will be scheduled for when s/he is next at the dealership. The Field Rep can either then reject the claim or escalate it.
    - Upon escalation, Toyota will either accept or reject the claim under 'goodwill'
    - At some point in this process, your Tacoma will be flagged as having a failed frame. You will be unable to trade it in at *any* Toyota dealer until the frame is replaced.
    - It will take 2-4 months for your frame to arrive at the dealership.
    - It will take the dealer 1-2 weeks to install the frame. Toyota will *not* provide a loaner vehicle during this time.
    - There are multiple reports of people getting their vehicles back with no fluids in the brakes/anti-freeze/etc. reservoirs after the frame replacement.
     
  16. Aug 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM
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    Being as mine is a 2013 and will be living in the DC area, I'm hoping the rust will hold off long enough for Toyota to issue a TSB for it. This really isn't something we should be worried about in 2013. I'm kinda pissed.

    I had an old Ford that, while the body was 40% rust, the frame was surface and that's it. And it lived in Kansas it's whole life an addition to almost never seeing an undercarrage wash.
     
  17. Aug 2, 2013 at 7:46 PM
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    A good friend of mine bought a 2000 Tacoma used (circa 2004 I think). His frame was flagged two years ago and Toyota gave him a very generous buyout - nearly as much as he had paid for it.

    Think about it - someone buying a previous generation used Tacoma is getting better treatment than someone who buys the current generation brand new.
     
  18. Aug 2, 2013 at 8:33 PM
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    Thank goodness I live in Texas where it's so hot that rust spontaneously combusts. But seriously...I wonder how widespread this is. Is it something that EVERY Tacoma owner should be wary of, or something that only 1% of the Tacoma ownership will experience? I'm thinking it's somewhere in between. I never knew they didn't treat the frames for rust. Regardless of the geographic location, oxidation is something that most metals are susceptible to, steel and iron especially when it comes to rust.

    I hope I don't experience that. My 2006 Tundra has a little rust in the engine bay on the interior of the front quarter panel. Just a little. I've never really noticed much underneath. Nothing noteworthy anyway. I talked to a guy today at work who owned a 2005 Tacoma...and lived in the NE as well as other places...and he said he's done nothing but changed the oil. Said he only washes it maybe 1x a year and it's been the greatest truck he ever owned because of the minimal upkeep the truck needed.
     
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  19. Aug 3, 2013 at 4:08 PM
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    Any vehicle which is not ready to roll after the frame swap is an indication of a crappy shop, not Toyota policy.

    My shop had a lot of first generation and tundra swaps under its belt, they knew what they were doing and were attentive to any after-swap issues. The tech had me bring it in at 30 days for a bolt tightening.

    No fluids? That's an issue for corporate, the dealership management and the BBB.
     
  20. Aug 5, 2013 at 3:55 AM
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    That sucks that you are going through this, but I guess you guys can be the pioneers and go explore the yet unmapped territory. I believe it will be a while before Toyota puts out any documentation for frame replacements, unless there have been a lot more behind the scenes that we have not heard about. I doubt the first few first gen frame replacements prompted a recall; it was most likely after hundreds of frame replacements that Toyota decided they had a problem.

    2-4 months for a frame of a currently produced model truckseems like way too long. It's not like the truck is out of production and they have to make one special. 1-2 weeks for frame replacement could be on par, I would assume it's very labor intensive to do the work. But to just give you the finger and say no loaner is BS. You need to fight for the loaner car. They are fixing their problem (hopefully they do), they shouldn't inconvenience you more than they already have.

    And if the dealership returns your vehicle with no fluid, they are idiots and need to be reported to Toyota Corporate.

    Agreed. I understand that some dealerships probably have more experience with this process. If they spend a week or more replacing your frame and don't remember to replace the fluids they drained before swapping the frame, maybe they should probably revise their checklist.
     

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