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Should I ReGear???

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Mainmoe02, Jun 5, 2013.

  1. Jun 5, 2013 at 11:26 PM
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    Mainmoe02

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    I'm a '01, 3.4, TRD, SR5, PreRunner.

    I'm about to jump up in tire size from the 265/70/16 AT to 255/85/16 MT.

    My question is, should I regear the rear diff?

    Gears have never been switched so I'm running on stock 4.10 gears
    I have the 3" lift and it drives just like it did before the lift. My concern is going to bigger, beefier tires that weight a lot more.

    I know it's not a race truck but to me Ive always felt a little struggle when taking off from a complete stop. I'm concerned about adding to the struggle with the heavier tires.

    I was thinking 4.88's, possibly Nitro's. But I'm not set on those. OPEN TO SUGGESTIONS

    Also, I'm not gonna do this job, so should any good mechanic know how to properly install. Or should I take it to someone who knows tacomas?

    Thanks
     
  2. Jun 5, 2013 at 11:37 PM
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    i wouldnt bother.

    4.88s for 35s. but honestly with the v6 you are fine.


    many shops send entire thirds away and buy new ones when they do a regear, it is more cost effective for the shop to do it that way. Might end up being 600 for a regear. or you can find a shop that will do it in house. Any capable mechanic that actually knows how to do a regear can do it. not that hard if you have the tools and have done em before. the gears themselves are probably about 200 then a rebuild kit of 50+, then add labor unless you can find a friend.


    so no, dont bother regearing
     
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  3. Jun 5, 2013 at 11:38 PM
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    tacokid09

    tacokid09 it's about the off-road miles

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    spend that money on a locker
     
  4. Jun 5, 2013 at 11:43 PM
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    :facepalm::facepalm:

    he has one
     
  5. Jun 5, 2013 at 11:53 PM
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    tacokid09

    tacokid09 it's about the off-road miles

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    i dont see where it says he has one.. haha, i know it does say its a sr5 though..

    edit: not a smart ass comment btw
     
  6. Jun 6, 2013 at 12:03 AM
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    didn't realize i would get a chance to use this TW meme so quickly but...

    1tr20.jpg


    EDIT: RIGHT NEXT TO SR5!!!!!!
    picture one of his build

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Jun 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM
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    tacokid09 it's about the off-road miles

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    real cute mark. i bet youre fapping cause its sooooooo funny...






    i never look at fisrt gen stuff, when i see something is TRD.. its either off road or sport (im a 2nd gen guy). hence the reason i said spend it on a locker.



    anothther comment that i could care less about or not that anyone read, ******s like mark are the reason why im so fucking sick of TW. its all about fucking memes and e-fabbers.
     
  8. Jun 6, 2013 at 12:25 AM
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    :rofl: :rofl:

    thanks for a good laugh. I think you are a little bit butt mad sir.

    how are you able to give useful credible advice to someone if you can't even take the time to read the first line of his post?

    if this is your excuse " i never look at fisrt gen stuff, when i see something is TRD.. its either off road or sport (im a 2nd gen guy)" why are you trying to give advice in the first gen section? It's just plain freaking stupid. If you are going to try to give useful advice, take the time to know the slightest bit about what you are giving advice on.

    Also no need for name calling.
     
  9. Jun 6, 2013 at 6:45 AM
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    Aww man, I was excited about reading people's opinions on wether or not I should re-gear. But this was funny too:smack: thanks for the morning laugh

    Can anyone else give me their opinion on if I should gear it up or leave the stock 4.10?

    Thanks!!!
     
  10. Jun 6, 2013 at 8:49 AM
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    scocar

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    Do you know what my approach is to giving 2nd gens guys advice? I pay attention first. There are so many different 2nd gen configurations and trim line and traction control BS that I don't know shit about, that I hold my tongue. Just a thought.

    But then regear question answered with "get a locker"? That's just derp. How does a locker help with power?
     
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  11. Jun 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM
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    Is that Batman?:cool:
     
  12. Jun 6, 2013 at 9:29 AM
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    Hey now, I think I covered it pretty well in my first post. It will probably feel a tad more sluggish at first but after a little while you won't notice it.


    ya hahaha. You should see all the memes we have turned him into, I think he replaced me from last year. Not nearly as derp face, but he has some pics that are well deserving of a caption.
     
  13. Jun 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM
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    I vote re-gear, OP!!!! Not only will it help your gas milage and restore power, it will reduce a lot of strain placed on your engine, transmission, and entire drive line afore the diff. If you have the cash, it's a VERY good idea. You could probably get away without regearing, but it's not ideal.

    Nitro is great, that's what I've got and I have zero complaints... Got a very nice pattern setting them up (indicates a well designed gear), and they've held up to my 37" tires since I've installed them. (ie: very strong) :)

    As for install, e-mail ZUK and see what he'd charge you http://gearinstalls.com/. He's one of the best in the buisness.

    Maybe I missed it, but what transmission do you have?

    EDIT: I see you have an auto... unless more than 80% of your driving is on the freeway, or if you don't mind the slightly higher RPM at high speeds, go 4.88s!
     
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  14. Jun 6, 2013 at 9:45 AM
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    I'd say go with 4.56 or 4.88 gears if your sticking with 33's.
    I'm probably re-gearing to 4.56 with 33's
     
  15. Jun 6, 2013 at 9:48 AM
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    All depends if the 600 bucks to regear is going to be worth it to you. The 33s are taller but still not that wide of a tire, not like a 12.5" wide one. So it won't weight that much more i wouldn't think.
     
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    I went to skinny 33's on my 2nd gen and it dogged out my 4.0L on the freeway so I went to 4.88's and I love it!
     
  17. Jun 6, 2013 at 9:55 AM
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    skinny 33s dogged out your 4 litre v6....and you people give me shit about my 2.7:rolleyes:
     
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    He's still losing power just from the tire height difference. The re-gear would bring that back closer to stock

    ^^
     
  19. Jun 6, 2013 at 10:09 AM
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    Thanks for the help. I guess I'll wait and see how it goes after the new tires. If its sluggish and very noticeable, I'll prob do it sooner than later. It's something I'm wanting to do eventually anyway. Just didnt want to spend the $ on regearing so soon. I've heard lots of good things about the Nitros so I'm leaning toward their 4.88s for when the time comes.

    I like my truck running perfect, any sign of something out of the ordinary, and I'm under the hood trying to figure out why. So If there is a slight sluggish/ loss of power feeling then I'll prob get it done very soon.

    Thanks for everyone's help!

    More opinions are wanted, keep then coming!
     
  20. Jun 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM
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    I'd say if you had the money and it's that big of a concern to you go for it, but I have 6in lift and 35s and can pull hills pretty easy.
     

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